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Showing Original Post only (View all)Gun control never seems to work-out well for minorities and women. Why is that? [View all]
I saw this in GD and, admittedly, it is from 2008; but the italicized excerpt at the end leapt-out at me --
Plainsclothes cops dont recognize NYPDs highest ranking black officer. Order him out of car at gunpoint
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Chief Douglas Zeigler, 60, head of the Community Affairs Bureau, was in his NYPD-issued vehicle near a fire hydrant when two plainclothes cops approached on May 2, sources said.
One officer walked up on each side of the SUV at 57th Ave. and Xenia St. in Corona about 7 p.m. and told the driver to roll down the heavily tinted windows, sources said.
What happened next is in dispute.
In his briefing to Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, Zeigler said the two cops, who are white, had no legitimate reason to approach his SUV, ranking sources said.
After they ordered him to get out, one officer did not believe the NYPD identification Zeigler gave him.
The cops gave a different account:
When one officer spotted Zeigler's service weapon through the rolled-down window, he yelled "Gun!" according to sources who have spoken with the officers.
Both cops raised their weapons and ordered the driver out of the car, sources said.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/plainclothes-officers-trouble-didn-recognize-off-duty-chief-article-1.327540
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Chief Douglas Zeigler, 60, head of the Community Affairs Bureau, was in his NYPD-issued vehicle near a fire hydrant when two plainclothes cops approached on May 2, sources said.
One officer walked up on each side of the SUV at 57th Ave. and Xenia St. in Corona about 7 p.m. and told the driver to roll down the heavily tinted windows, sources said.
What happened next is in dispute.
In his briefing to Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, Zeigler said the two cops, who are white, had no legitimate reason to approach his SUV, ranking sources said.
After they ordered him to get out, one officer did not believe the NYPD identification Zeigler gave him.
The cops gave a different account:
When one officer spotted Zeigler's service weapon through the rolled-down window, he yelled "Gun!" according to sources who have spoken with the officers.
Both cops raised their weapons and ordered the driver out of the car, sources said.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/plainclothes-officers-trouble-didn-recognize-off-duty-chief-article-1.327540
The police chief was open carrying, as was his legal right but the assumption of the other two officers was that he was a menace.
Tamir Rice was shot and killed while playing with a toy gun.
John Crawford was shot and killed in a Wal-Mart because somebody reported a man holding a gun.
Clarence Daniels was lawfully carrying concealed when he was assaulted.
Those who spread the gunz = fear mantra are getting innocent people hurt and those people are predominantly people of color.
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Gun control never seems to work-out well for minorities and women. Why is that? [View all]
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2016
OP
When you pass by a liquor store and see people buying alcohol do you have similar thoughts
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2016
#9
Me? What thoughts would those be?? Anyway - I would certainly be more thoughtful
jmg257
Feb 2016
#11
"Although lately there have been a few stories of drunk guys with guns shooting innocent people"
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2016
#13
And how about all the mayhem caused by alcohol and no gun? You act as it it doesn't exist.
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2016
#17
Do victims of drunk drivers, domestic violence and rape have an irrational fear of alcohol?
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2016
#22
Well that sucks. I see myself as one who doesn't just accept most things at their face value.
jmg257
Feb 2016
#28
Oh - and no, I wouldn't feel victims of violent drunken behavior to be irrational.
jmg257
Feb 2016
#30
Every time I am at the liquor store I see drunks buying the little bottles of Fireball...
Human101948
Feb 2016
#15
Where in this thread or any other have i claimed LOD deaths and anti-police rhetoric
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2016
#4
Were anyone to try and claim these incidences were based on heightened police vigilance I would say:
Nuclear Unicorn
Feb 2016
#8