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branford

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6. Support for gun rights actually polls higher than support for abortion rights in many areas.
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:24 AM
May 2016

Last edited Mon May 23, 2016, 04:09 PM - Edit history (2)

More importantly, I would be far more comfortable with gun control as a matter of conviction if most of the demands had a reasonable chance of actually lowering violent crime.

For instance, universal background checks would not have stopped a single recent mass shooting, ALL rifles, no less purported "assault weapons," account for a tiny fraction of criminal or negligent misuse of guns and magazine size has no correlation at all to crime rates. Further, about a 60 percent of gun-related deaths are suicides, yet the USA still has a comparable suicide rate to most other developed nations, and demonstrably lower than gun control havens like Japan and South Korea.

Even in places that instituted strict gun control like the UK and Australia, any lowering of violent crime cannot be proven to be causally related to such legislation, particularly since these countries had much lower rates of violent crime (firearm and otherwise) that the USA to begin with. The USA has also seen its violent crime rate cut in half over the last few decades, all while gun laws have liberalized across the nation.

Virtually all gun control advocacy is now part of a culture war, largely pitting rural and exurban (and Midwestern and Southern) cultures against urban domains, and has absolutely nothing to do with actual safety.

Guns issue to the GOPers:. The gift what keeps on giving. nt Eleanors38 May 2016 #1
Our beloved Party... Puha Ekapi May 2016 #2
There are many people... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #3
We could turn every now "red" state if we were progressive on the 2A. ileus Jun 2016 #15
I'm impressed LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2016 #4
Gun Control is to Democrats virginia mountainman May 2016 #5
Support for gun rights actually polls higher than support for abortion rights in many areas. branford May 2016 #6
∆∆ That last sentence. Eleanors38 May 2016 #9
Excellent post! nt virginia mountainman May 2016 #10
Your post reminds me of a post on that "other" discussion board. ;-) pablo_marmol May 2016 #7
The next time we hear about RW talking points remind the pro-Control side it's them Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #8
Perfect storm coming ashore. pablo_marmol May 2016 #11
Here oneshooter May 2016 #12
Thank you brother! pablo_marmol May 2016 #13
Bump...nt virginia mountainman Jun 2016 #14
Well thanks, VM, but....... pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #16
Im not the "Touchy feely type" virginia mountainman Jun 2016 #17
Thanks. I need all that I can get. pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #18
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