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friendly_iconoclast

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25. What about those that parrot antigun talking points? They do exist, you know:
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jul 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023396665

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172129717

http://www.progressivemajorityaction.org/gun_messaging

https://progressivemajorityaction.nationbuilder.com/assets/pages/64/Voicing_Our_Values-To_Curtail_Gun_Violence.pdf

Voicing Our Values—To Curtail Gun Violence

Gun Messaging

Voicing Our Values—To Curtail Gun Violence

This is an addendum to our book, Voicing Our Values: A Message Guide for Candidates. Our purpose is to help lawmakers, candidates and activists understand how to argue in favor of current proposals to curtail gun violence. As we explain here, we have tried to make this resource as easy-to-use as possible by placing model language in boxes throughout. We encourage you to adapt the language to your own voice and personalize it with your own knowledge and experience. Much more comprehensive, detailed or technical talking points are available from advocacy groups listed at the end of this paper.

QUICK LINKS:

How to introduce your argument
About Background Checks
About Military-Style Assault Weapons
About High-Capacity Ammunition Magazines
How to rebut common pro-gun arguments
Sources for more detailed talking points
A PDF copy of Voicing Our Values—To Curtail Gun Violence

Our most important advice: (1) Lay out the problem in very simple terms—most Americans have no idea how easy our laws make it for dangerous people to buy handguns and assault weapons; (2) Don’t let pro-gun advocates sidetrack the debate into “straw man” arguments, obscure “facts,” or a focus on the technical properties of guns—about 90 percent of their arguments are actually designed to change the subject so you need to insist on a debate that is relevant to the legislation at hand; and (3) Generally:
Don’t say . . .

Gun control

Stricter gun laws

You oppose the 2nd Amendment


Preventing gun violence

Stronger gun laws

Support for the 2nd Amendment goes hand-in-hand with keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous people

Why . . .

People have negative reactions to “gun control” and “stricter” laws, and they feel positive about the 2nd Amendment. Also, average voters have a favorable view of the National Rifle Association (NRA). You are welcome to criticize the NRA when speaking to the progressive base, but it won’t help you persuade swing voters. That’s why these talking points don’t include anti-NRA language. If the situation requires you to attack the NRA, then condemn “NRA lobbyists” or the “NRA’s out-of-touch leaders.” Do not attack average NRA members or local NRA leaders; that language doesn’t work.


http://www.progressivemajorityaction.org/sources_for_more_detailed_talking_points

Sources for more detailed talking points

More information from the experts:

Brady Campaign on background checks, on military-style assault weapons, and on high-capacity ammunition magazines.

Mayors Against Illegal Guns on a variety of gun measures and "Demand A Plan."

Center for American Progress on “Changing the Conversation: Preventing Violence, Not Gun Control”

Message Matters one-pagers on guns.

For an excellent book by Dennis Henigan about how to debate the NRA, read Lethal Logic: Exploding the Myths that Paralyze American Gun Policy.


Here's the Center for American Progress one

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/141743245/CAP-Memo

Changing the Conversation: Preventing Violence, Not Gun Control





Delicate Flowers [View all] Sedona Jul 2016 OP
Yes - only the poilice can be trusted with firearms...nt jonno99 Jul 2016 #1
Wow! I'm impressed DonP Jul 2016 #2
But it still applies. HassleCat Jul 2016 #5
Yes, it's a five-year-old cartoon. Jerry442 Jul 2016 #7
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #10
Another wholly unoriginal and trite thought: Jerry442 Jul 2016 #11
Nothing of substance? DonP Jul 2016 #12
Well, it is easier to derive pleasure from "sticking." Easier than doing something substantive. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #16
I guess... Puha Ekapi Jul 2016 #3
Cartoon ducks with MC hammer glasses are impressive. ileus Jul 2016 #9
The true cost of freedom. HassleCat Jul 2016 #4
Freedom and civil liberties SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #6
"(G)un huggers that are on DU just to promote the NRA agenda." Point them out, please... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #17
I don't think we're allowed to do that. HassleCat Jul 2016 #18
Calling something a 'talking point' is a merely a rejoinder, not an refutation friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #19
People on DU that parrot NRA talking points? SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #21
What about those that parrot antigun talking points? They do exist, you know: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #25
Oops, bet you will get no response Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #26
You know someone's position is weak when they have to dodge awkward questions friendly_iconoclast Jul 2016 #27
Lol Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #28
Per the new rules Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #20
Posting links to these threads would likely be fine, and bolster your credibility. Marengo Jul 2016 #24
Maybe there should be a law... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #14
"trends don't reverse" when the controllers keep doing the same thing... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #15
Stay progressive on the 2A... ileus Jul 2016 #8
Remember, every time you see this cartoon needledriver Jul 2016 #13
Yup. And remember something else: pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #22
So if gun rights supporting Dems are "delicate flowers"....... pablo_marmol Jul 2016 #23
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