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discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
22. We need more than the police.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:55 PM
Nov 2020

Too often the stages of a worsening problem are ignored by the government financed support system. We have a system where social workers and public health care (physical, mental...) are under paid/underfunded. Concurrently police departments have funds to buy government surplus armored personnel carriers. Most towns have law enforcement, firefighters and emergency medical teams but cops are the one size fits all solution for most problems.

If your grandparent or grandchild was having a mental health crisis, what options are there? For poor folks in busy big cities, mostly you wait till it's an emergency because you can't afford to do anything else.

For the most part the police arrive after the damage is done. Arrest the problematic folks and go back to write reports on the events. Seldom do the police arrive in time to protect anyone.

IMO law enforcement is often over funded considering the lack of funding (or existence) of less urgent intervention options. But when all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.

Have a nice evening.

So tell me why "defund the police" is a terrible idea? DBoon Nov 2020 #1
More unemployed, angry recruits for what are essentially the modern-day Freikorps, that's why friendly_iconoclast Nov 2020 #4
So the reason we have police is to keep delinquents employed? DBoon Nov 2020 #7
We have the police to keep the citizenry safe. whathehell Nov 2020 #10
We need police.... TheRealNorth Nov 2020 #13
Yes! Thank you for saying that. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2020 #15
Yes, I agree whathehell Nov 2020 #17
How is supporting violent white supremacists gangs keeping us safe? DBoon Nov 2020 #20
It clearly does not, but that wasn't the question.. whathehell Nov 2020 #21
We need more than the police. discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2020 #22
I agree we need more than the police.. whathehell Nov 2020 #24
Of course the police are needed. discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2020 #25
That's what I've been saying.. whathehell Nov 2020 #26
very true discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2020 #27
Okay.. whathehell Nov 2020 #28
I read this earlier...it is extremely disturbing. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #2
Gonna hafta use the prying from cold dead hands approach I suppose.. LSFL Nov 2020 #3
And who'll be doing the prying, in your estimation? friendly_iconoclast Nov 2020 #5
We can use the national guard and military against them if they openly LSFL Nov 2020 #11
It's not the doofus majority of them I worry about-it's the more functional ones going on the DL... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2020 #14
I hear you brother. LSFL Nov 2020 #18
And my favorite, which I personally witnessed, dware Nov 2020 #23
is there much difference between the police and the proud boys et al? nt msongs Nov 2020 #6
Seems to me that the official cops like to use them as volunteer muscle... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2020 #8
Many including Malcolm Nance say there will be some skirmishes..nothing organized Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #9
He's probably correct. But if he's wrong, we could be in for 'Anni di piombo' friendly_iconoclast Nov 2020 #16
I wonder what this Turbineguy Nov 2020 #12
It is an oath that applies to each one individually. LSFL Nov 2020 #19
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