Gun Control & RKBA

Atypical Liberal

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118. "making things clearer"????

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 03:40 PM

Mar 2012

We've been explaining this for years around here. You are just now picking up on this information?

Yeah, machine guns have been restricted since 1986. No new ones can be added to the registry after that date. Which means the supply is highly limited and consequently prices are astronomical. An M16 that you could have bought for $1000 in 1986 today will cost you $17,000.

Yeah, anyone today can, in theory, buy a pre-1986 machine gun. All you have to do is pay the $200 tax and pass a background check. And then pony up the several thousand dollars to buy even the cheapest transferable weapon.

And of course we've been showing for years that all rifles, let alone assault rifles, are hardly ever used in crime.

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Wal-Mart Sells Machine Guns! [View all] slackmaster Mar 2012 OP

Not machine guns Bosso 63 Mar 2012 #1

Please join me in educating Seth slackmaster Mar 2012 #2

Yeah, good luck with that. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #6

The firearm has little to do with the sporting side of it. ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #8

"The firearm has little to do with the sporting side of it." Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #16

Assuming otherwise means one lacks reasoning skills, knowledge or both ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #93

can't hunt deer with an AR-15 gejohnston Mar 2012 #12

But this was in Paducah, KY? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #18

hunting regulations and gun laws are two different things gejohnston Mar 2012 #20

So, you can have a machine gun in Wyoming? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #59

you can in most states gejohnston Mar 2012 #60

How refreshing to know machine guns are available in most states. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #66

nothing made after 1986 gejohnston Mar 2012 #69

Sure, you can have that "puppy" if you have about 18K lying around. Dr_Scholl Mar 2012 #84

This is good. You're making things clearer for many people. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #99

that worked out so well in gejohnston Mar 2012 #100

DC and Chicago have the lowest suicide rates too Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #101

They are a controllers dream just like Chicago shadowrider Mar 2012 #103

Exactly, as all metropolitan areas should be. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #104

Really? Seriously? ObamaFTW2012 Mar 2012 #105

Yes, I'm serious. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #107

He has some mighty thick rose-colored glasses. n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #109

If it's so harmonious why are the crime rates so high there? Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #119

Why are the crime rates so high? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #121

What city listing are *you* looking at?!? X_Digger Mar 2012 #123

Interesting to note the absence of NYC, Chicago and LA Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #125

Notice Chicago's 'N/A' -- they don't report to the FBI correctly. n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #126

So? gejohnston Mar 2012 #108

Really? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #110

No. gejohnston Mar 2012 #111

Oh boy! I'm having a Rashomon moment Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #114

I stand by what I said. gejohnston Mar 2012 #131

And I stand by what I said Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #133

"making things clearer"???? Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #118

Sure you can. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #68

Cool, thanks for the update gejohnston Mar 2012 #112

I'm thimking real hard about building an upper in .300Whisper oneshooter Mar 2012 #115

So how do you hunt? oneshooter Mar 2012 #25

I hunt with a mouse and keyboard. And occasionally a fishing pole. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #31

Lots of seasons, game, and laws. Have to abide by all of them. oneshooter Mar 2012 #48

No, we had ducks and rabbits Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #56

Does the rifle meet the requirements for suitability for hunting? krispos42 Mar 2012 #63

I guess that varies from state to state. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #64

Yes, it does. ManiacJoe Mar 2012 #65

What would be wrong with an AR-15 or -10 pattern rifle for hunting? PavePusher Mar 2012 #71

Well, I think it's pretty subjective. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #81

"Sporting" is a stupid reason to hunt. If you're not out there with the primary purpose.... PavePusher Mar 2012 #87

No insinuation. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #89

Please have a talk with the person who posted #6 and #16. X_Digger Mar 2012 #91

Done. Have to see how long it survives... ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #9

What's scary is, people will believe that shadowrider Mar 2012 #3

Believe what? That they are machine guns? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #7

Yes, it really does matter that they are not "technically", more important that they are not LEGALLY slackmaster Mar 2012 #10

Those are NOT machine guns shadowrider Mar 2012 #11

I'm fully aware of that. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #22

as I explained in my email to Seth gejohnston Mar 2012 #26

The M4 technically isn't even a machine gun..it's a automatic rifle. ileus Mar 2012 #53

no, it's not an automatic rifle; it's an assault rifle. provis99 Mar 2012 #57

Yes. Straw Man Mar 2012 #13

I'm aware of all that. Thanks. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #34

so dishonesty and gejohnston Mar 2012 #15

Ouch! That was a bit rough GE Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #41

It does matter, because they do not remotely resemble machine guns in any meaningful way. NewMoonTherian Mar 2012 #17

My point is that most people don't know the difference Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #50

People don't know the difference. NewMoonTherian Mar 2012 #67

So it's other purpose might be what? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #70

Ignorance- either intentional or inadvertent is always bad. X_Digger Mar 2012 #74

As I say, that is why you guys need to educate us to what is legal. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #76

My message to them? Don't fall for the bullshit like in the video in the OP. X_Digger Mar 2012 #83

I agree 100% Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #88

They are used for long-range target practice. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #120

" These very expensive rifles are mostly used by civilians for long range target shooting." Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #124

The only "freak" I see is you. Leftist Agitator Mar 2012 #127

Sure, lots of people exercising 1A rights are freaks. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #129

So people who shoot targets are freaks? Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #128

From reading your posts, I'd have to say "Yes", absolutely. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #130

Here are some sporting 50 BMG rifles. oneshooter Mar 2012 #122

Does your boat have a motor, even an outboard? oneshooter Mar 2012 #28

I love it when you make the boating comparisons. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #52

Since the "technically" part means the difference between being a free Citizen and a felon.... PavePusher Mar 2012 #72

because ARs don't go with tweed and gejohnston Mar 2012 #75

"What has got you so exercised about this?" Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #79

As a sailor, you should understand terminology one-eyed fat man Mar 2012 #78

Hey, Brewster, I'm with you 100% on this Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #80

Hey, it's America. Land of the free, home of the brave. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #4

What an obnoxious asshole. Dr_Scholl Mar 2012 #5

What a moron. X_Digger Mar 2012 #14

Got to agree: NOT machine guns ewagner Mar 2012 #19

Only as harmful or harmless as the person behind the trigger? safeinOhio Mar 2012 #27

they already tuned out gejohnston Mar 2012 #40

I'm shocked and appalled guitar man Mar 2012 #21

(And for those who miss the tongue planted firmly in cheek-) Yes, they are the same gun :) n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #23

I'm with you and so are most sane people. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #24

they are the same gun gejohnston Mar 2012 #32

I know. Isn't it amazing? Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #35

so what it looks like is gejohnston Mar 2012 #38

Well, only one will accept a 90 round magazine. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #42

you can put the gejohnston Mar 2012 #45

My bad. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #55

Uh, no. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #47

Wrong guitar man Mar 2012 #49

Well, waddyaknow? Got me there Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #54

"wake people up" to.... what, exactly? n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #73

To reality. We're all being educated here. Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #77

Wake them up to what? rl6214 Mar 2012 #132

Agree 100% fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #85

Why would you say that? It is just another 22 rimfire. oneshooter Mar 2012 #86

It's the same gun. Derp. n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #90

Dude, you have been punked gejohnston Mar 2012 #92

Forgot? guitar man Mar 2012 #106

Whoops. Common Sense Party Mar 2012 #94

I've always loved that song OriginalGeek Mar 2012 #96

Who's he trying to kid? discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #29

Only videos by gun experts should be allowed here. safeinOhio Mar 2012 #30

at least gejohnston Mar 2012 #36

Priceless! Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #37

Agree, that's an expert! JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2012 #44

The video demonstrates that firearms defy Murphy's law ... spin Mar 2012 #46

Seth freely admits in the video that he is trying to drive up his view count and has fun doing so. spin Mar 2012 #33

Of course they don't. safeinOhio Mar 2012 #39

You might be right gejohnston Mar 2012 #43

Ted Nugent is an entertainer and a musician ... spin Mar 2012 #58

What video of Ted Nugent? one-eyed fat man Mar 2012 #82

see post #27 safeinOhio Mar 2012 #97

What a ID10T... ileus Mar 2012 #51

I'd prefer it if you didn't. Common Sense Party Mar 2012 #95

You're right...I fixed it. ileus Mar 2012 #98

What an idiot. BiggJawn Mar 2012 #102

Video Flagged: FLAG >> VIOLENCE >> ENCOURAGE TERRORISM (n/t) OneTenthofOnePercent Mar 2012 #61

Well, that is three minutes of my life I am not going to get back. ManiacJoe Mar 2012 #62

Machine guns, machine gun and hollow point ammo? rl6214 Mar 2012 #113

"Gun racks for your truck!" jeepnstein Mar 2012 #117

What a hysterical moron. jeepnstein Mar 2012 #116