Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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6. Helps the economy, for starters.

Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:48 PM

Dec 2011

I'm doing my part -- a new local gun dealer is having a grand opening sale to jumpstart his business, so I bought myself a couple of presents: a Smith & Wesson 642 and a Kel-Tec PF-9, both made right here in the USA. Let's keep America working, manufacturing stuff. Gainful employment. No fear.

Do I think everyone should be trained to "possess and operate" a firearm? No, I think some people don't want anything to do with firearms, and I can respect their choice. I don't know anyone involved with firearms who doesn't seek all the training he or she can afford.

Due diligence? I did all the required federal and state paperwork for my purchases. They are safely stored. Due diligence done.

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Firearm sales hit record levels this holiday season [View all] ellisonz Dec 2011 OP

I just picked up my Christmas present today michreject Dec 2011 #1

Congrats, burf Dec 2011 #5

I currently have 13 1911's michreject Dec 2011 #30

Of all the pistols I've owned (close to 100) the 1911 ileus Dec 2011 #35

Get the Ruger Pigheaded Dec 2011 #46

I'm looking at the Rock Island 1911 rl6214 Dec 2011 #71

Still looking to get my first 1911 rl6214 Dec 2011 #70

I have a couple 1911's one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #80

Did you have to knock her down to get it from her? Kennah Dec 2011 #15

She gave it up willingly michreject Dec 2011 #29

let's see gejohnston Dec 2011 #2

If things are so great because the crime rate is down as a result of guns... ellisonz Dec 2011 #7

I never said the crime drop had anything to do with guns gejohnston Dec 2011 #8

Again this is the problem with not using a multivariate analysis. ellisonz Dec 2011 #9

You read more into my post than I meant gejohnston Dec 2011 #11

Uh oh... You just said "multivariate analysis" DanTex Dec 2011 #31

you have us confused with Europe gejohnston Dec 2011 #49

Did you dress her up like that? n/t PavePusher Dec 2011 #72

I know right... ellisonz Dec 2011 #50

If you dislike it so much We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #51

You've got your talking points mixed up. DanTex Dec 2011 #62

problem is that gejohnston Dec 2011 #52

Funny isnt it? We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #53

... ellisonz Dec 2011 #54

I stand by what I said gejohnston Dec 2011 #55

Thanks for the link. Straw Man Dec 2011 #64

Nice try. ellisonz Dec 2011 #66

"Nice try"? I'm simply quoting the article. Straw Man Dec 2011 #68

Ok. ellisonz Dec 2011 #69

The fact that you haven't seen the studies doesn't mean they don't exist. DanTex Dec 2011 #65

is it gejohnston Dec 2011 #67

ironic thing is gejohnston Dec 2011 #74

and this is the problem with trying to use multivariate analysis to determine causation. aikoaiko Dec 2011 #76

Sociologists don't just run statistical analysises... ellisonz Dec 2011 #77

true, but they dont imply causation as you did. aikoaiko Dec 2011 #78

That would be your opinion. n/t ellisonz Dec 2011 #79

"All purchasers under the age of 25 must undergo psychological evaluation by the police." Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2011 #18

It's a response to school shootings. ellisonz Dec 2011 #20

So the police should do psych evaluations? Straw Man Dec 2011 #23

Yes, I want a bureacracy... ellisonz Dec 2011 #24

Oh, no... Straw Man Dec 2011 #25

Ok. ellisonz Dec 2011 #26

No, not really. Straw Man Dec 2011 #27

Knifes vs. guns - you know what they say - don't bring a knife to a gun fight... ellisonz Dec 2011 #28

You entirely missed several points. Straw Man Dec 2011 #40

Oy Vey ellisonz Dec 2011 #57

What on earth are you talking about? Straw Man Dec 2011 #60

Ha. ellisonz Dec 2011 #63

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #33

"Social Security has a functioning and efficient bureaucracy" Pigheaded Dec 2011 #48

So you're saying there's fraud? ellisonz Dec 2011 #56

There are more examples from that particular source. Here's one friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #61

All the more reason to question that procedure. SteveW Dec 2011 #44

An excellent substitute for the psych evals already exists. GreenStormCloud Dec 2011 #58

"will usually get into trouble with the police and get convicted early in life." ellisonz Dec 2011 #59

Not at all presumptious. GreenStormCloud Dec 2011 #75

I shoot for recreation - great family activity hack89 Dec 2011 #32

I easily have another 20 or 30 guns on my "must have" list. ileus Dec 2011 #36

Straw man, there... SteveW Dec 2011 #43

Gosh, it can't possibly be "a healthy thing for democracy".... PavePusher Dec 2011 #3

Just tonight finished my sons rifle. Loving Wife is wrapping it now. oneshooter Dec 2011 #4

Helps the economy, for starters. Straw Man Dec 2011 #6

The daughter is getting the .38 Snubbie she used at our last range session for Christmas DonP Dec 2011 #10

"Fear, in a word," he said. BULLSHIT rl6214 Dec 2011 #12

He's the manager of the sportings good store... ellisonz Dec 2011 #14

Replies to your questions... spin Dec 2011 #13

Thanks for stating my sentiments on every point for me, spin. Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2011 #21

No problem. Thanks for your support. (n/t) spin Dec 2011 #37

Absent violent crime, this Second Great Depression isn't good for democracy Kennah Dec 2011 #16

Have you listened to teabagger rhetoric? AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #17

I sure as hell don't want to see them as the only ones armed. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #22

One of those clowns questioned me at a OWS rally... SteveW Dec 2011 #45

LOL. beevul Dec 2011 #19

Answers DissedByBush Dec 2011 #34

Buy a Snuggie or buy a rifle? Remmah2 Dec 2011 #38

Why not both? We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #39

And if the Zombies(tm) come on a cold day... PavePusher Dec 2011 #73

Just goes to show gun control is a lost cause. Atypical Liberal Dec 2011 #41

The big uptick in Democratic/Democratic-leaning is interesting... SteveW Dec 2011 #42

Addition to my last post... SteveW Dec 2011 #47

28 December 1911 one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #81

Interesting! Union Scribe Dec 2011 #82