Gun Control & RKBA

mvccd1000

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127. Gotcha.

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 04:38 AM

Apr 2012

Sorry, my answers were not focused in that direction.

I don't so much mind lists, and as my first reply said, I agree that government interactions should be transparent. I don't think the ability to exercise constitutionally protected rights should necessarily be on a list, though. (Voting as on obvious exception, as you can only exercise that right once per election.)

I don't think any citizens should be on a list of who spoke on the corner about a certain political issue, or who protested another issue, or who exercised their right to be free from search and seizure, or even who exercised their second amendment rights.

In that vein, I can say I'm glad to live in a state that does not require my presence on such a list to exercise my rights.

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Would publishing the personal information... [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 OP

Not really. Oneka Apr 2012 #1

Huh? bongbong Apr 2012 #2

"Nothing happened to O'Liely" Oneka Apr 2012 #6

WTF? rl6214 Apr 2012 #7

If a news organization Oneka Apr 2012 #8

WTF? bongbong Apr 2012 #9

Your turn rl6214 Apr 2012 #25

Thanks bongbong Apr 2012 #30

You wanna talk about something O'Reilly said, why don't you say it instead of O'Liely rl6214 Apr 2012 #55

SORRY! bongbong Apr 2012 #61

I would suggest... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #3

"Social benefit" my rear. More guns in public are a detriment to society. Hoyt Apr 2012 #15

Get a grip. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #19

so is more bloviateing on the internet yet here you are rl6214 Apr 2012 #26

It would seem to me that issuing safeinOhio Apr 2012 #17

I lean toward all public actions being open to the public. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #20

Sure, I would think so. safeinOhio Apr 2012 #22

we just don't agree there. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #24

Agreed. mvccd1000 Apr 2012 #28

You don't vote? safeinOhio Apr 2012 #29

Sure. mvccd1000 Apr 2012 #46

In my state and most others, of course there is a list safeinOhio Apr 2012 #115

And what good would you suggest that does? mvccd1000 Apr 2012 #124

That is not the point. safeinOhio Apr 2012 #125

Gotcha. mvccd1000 Apr 2012 #127

I'm not worried about burglars. BiggJawn Apr 2012 #21

Really? bongbong Apr 2012 #68

Funny. Clames Apr 2012 #126

ROFL bongbong Apr 2012 #132

No... Clames Apr 2012 #140

OK bongbong Apr 2012 #144

That's a good point. If the public has a right to know who is carrying guns, why not carry openly? Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #4

If the public has a right to know who is carrying guns discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #5

2nd Amendment bongbong Apr 2012 #10

an Individual is a Member of the Militia. In order to be well regulated the Individual must have a Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #11

In order to be well regulated bongbong Apr 2012 #32

excuse me -- are you saying that I am not well trained? Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #35

Simple bongbong Apr 2012 #39

I got one of those gejohnston Apr 2012 #41

OK but, does this mean that one is not well regulated if one can not produce papers from a Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #44

such simple questions.! bongbong Apr 2012 #52

then I am very well regulated. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #63

Nope! bongbong Apr 2012 #69

trust me dude - Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #75

Really? bongbong Apr 2012 #79

in the immortal words of jpak...you are wrong. yup Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #93

HA HA! bongbong Apr 2012 #95

I am a well regulated militia of One. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #97

Yawn part 543,638 bongbong Apr 2012 #112

night night Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #117

Okey dokey bongbong Apr 2012 #119

you are very condescending - Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #66

Does my DD-214 count? GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #122

What a laugh! bongbong Apr 2012 #130

that needs to be further discussed and refined, imo.... still, did you forget to produce your Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #47

Wow! bongbong Apr 2012 #53

go do another bong hit, dude. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #76

Go do another hit of meth, dude. bongbong Apr 2012 #80

Thanks for establishing how completely you missed the point. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #90

Thanks bongbong Apr 2012 #91

that is some stretch you have there Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #94

Yawn-o bongbong Apr 2012 #96

I bow to the MasterBater. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #98

Hmmm bongbong Apr 2012 #102

! Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #106

That's too bad... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #12

At least the other 4 members understand the phrase "well regulated militia." Hoyt Apr 2012 #16

there are no objective justices gejohnston Apr 2012 #18

None? bongbong Apr 2012 #33

so they are objective if they agree gejohnston Apr 2012 #51

Mind-reading bongbong Apr 2012 #54

not mind reading gejohnston Apr 2012 #60

Yawn bongbong Apr 2012 #62

bored yet? Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #64

get a double refund where you learned gejohnston Apr 2012 #67

More fail! bongbong Apr 2012 #70

"the pro-guns-in-every-corner-of-society-culture" rl6214 Apr 2012 #27

I love it! bongbong Apr 2012 #31

Are members of a militia "people"? nt rrneck Apr 2012 #34

Are bongbong Apr 2012 #37

There is no militia. rrneck Apr 2012 #43

As a well regulated Individaul, is it wrong to consider oneself a Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #45

Um, I would consider it rrneck Apr 2012 #49

Learn what "well-regulated" actually meant at that time then get back with it rl6214 Apr 2012 #57

Std talkin point bongbong Apr 2012 #71

Wrong, guess again rl6214 Apr 2012 #89

Nah Nah! bongbong Apr 2012 #92

Yeah, you've got a funny definition and I've got the correct one rl6214 Apr 2012 #105

Yes bongbong Apr 2012 #113

You didn't answer my question bongbong Apr 2012 #56

You can run but you can't hide. rrneck Apr 2012 #73

???? bongbong Apr 2012 #81

Still running. rrneck Apr 2012 #84

Hmm.... bongbong Apr 2012 #99

Nope, thats it. rrneck Apr 2012 #108

Yep bongbong Apr 2012 #114

Actually it's rather simple: discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #116

Your point? bongbong Apr 2012 #120

And what point was that? rrneck Apr 2012 #118

Read, baby, read! bongbong Apr 2012 #121

Oh, that. rrneck Apr 2012 #123

Well.... bongbong Apr 2012 #131

Awwww.... rrneck Apr 2012 #133

Yawn againT bongbong Apr 2012 #136

I dunno rrneck Apr 2012 #161

Learn what bearing arms really means... rl6214 Apr 2012 #58

Really? bongbong Apr 2012 #65

typical BS from the anti-gun zealots rl6214 Apr 2012 #88

OK bongbong Apr 2012 #101

No, it's commonly accepted that the foot soldier carries the modern weapon of THE FOOT SOLDIER rl6214 Apr 2012 #107

If he did, he wouldn't do it so much. X_Digger Apr 2012 #109

+1 n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #110

You're still losing bongbong Apr 2012 #111

thank god for that "pesky little phrase" Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #48

Even if the second amendment specifically said you had to be in a militia to keep and bear arms... Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #78

Are members of the militia "people"? nt rrneck Apr 2012 #23

*** and crickets *** Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #36

Kinda nice to hear sometimes. rrneck Apr 2012 #42

and a day later... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #164

love it, sitting on my porch, sipping on a mint julep and listening to: Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #165

Are bongbong Apr 2012 #38

There is no militia. rrneck Apr 2012 #40

Try again bongbong Apr 2012 #50

At last count rrneck Apr 2012 #74

Still dodging bongbong Apr 2012 #82

Fine. rrneck Apr 2012 #85

There are no militias that serve the role that they did in the founders' day. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #87

That's not my problem bongbong Apr 2012 #103

It's a problem for anyone who wants to restrict the right to keep and bear arms. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #129

reply bongbong Apr 2012 #135

what precedent? gejohnston Apr 2012 #137

You call it potato bongbong Apr 2012 #143

we have more laws gejohnston Apr 2012 #152

Hmm bongbong Apr 2012 #156

the rest of the world discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #163

A simple question discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #139

asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #142

Okay discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #147

But there is no answer in post #141. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #148

asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #154

I did, and have not seen anything that looks like an answer. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #158

asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #159

He refuses to answer that question. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #149

I can wait. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #155

"Per your post, if the militia no longer exists, then the 2nd Amendment has NO meaning anymore. " Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #145

Don't expect a cogent response.. X_Digger Apr 2012 #150

What a trainwreck of a trouncing. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #151

hmmm bongbong Apr 2012 #153

There are no answers in post #141. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #157

asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #160

Try answering a little faster. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #162

"Communicating badly and acting smug when you're misunderstood is NOT CLEVERNESS."- XKCD friendly_iconoclast Apr 2012 #169

asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #170

I wasn't aware you were advocating *anything*, (that 'communicating badly' thing)... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2012 #171

Really? bongbong Apr 2012 #172

OK, then. Kindly point out for us what the NRA got wrong. Here's a link to their site: friendly_iconoclast Apr 2012 #174

No way! bongbong Apr 2012 #176

Well then, what you have asserted without evidence can be likewise dismissed without evidence. friendly_iconoclast Apr 2012 #177

asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #178

You don't know what "well-regulated" at that time means rl6214 Apr 2012 #59

FAIL! bongbong Apr 2012 #72

All 9 judges agreed the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #77

And... bongbong Apr 2012 #83

I dont' know what you mean by "laissez-faire gun ownership" Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #86

Interesting bongbong Apr 2012 #104

You'll have to do the research yourself, I'm afraid. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #128

I've done the research bongbong Apr 2012 #134

OK, so based on your research... Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #138

Thats four questions bongbong Apr 2012 #141

Feel free to ask away. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #146

"Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be" friendly_iconoclast Apr 2012 #166

That's a good one bongbong Apr 2012 #167

And what do *you* believe "...The NRA Imagines Constitution To Be"? friendly_iconoclast Apr 2012 #168

The NRA Imagines Constitution To Be Glassunion Apr 2012 #173

Bwahaha! friendly_iconoclast Apr 2012 #175

Whoa, dude..... Callisto32 Apr 2012 #13

Cool discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #14

huge hands, large arms Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #100