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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
28. historical fact, not excuses
Tue May 1, 2012, 07:35 PM
May 2012
people will smuggle cheap ones into the country, people will just make them in the garage and they will just steal them. Full auto AKs are pretty cheap overseas.
Like I said, it is working with autos.
That mob still has them, can get them. The commission won't let them use then like the 1920s. Street thugs never did. Comparing full autos in US crime (which was near zero then) to now (still near zero, just without "glorify the gangster" effect) kind of reminds me of a debate between Paul Krugman and Ron Paul. Krugman was talking about what a disaster cutting spending did to modern economies. Ron Paul was talking about Rome falling because of debt and moving away from the gold standard. This argument kind of makes you sound like Ron Paul.
As for the other question about all of those millions of handguns that won't get registered. Well, I'd guess most would get registered. You can't legally use it for self defense, you can't sell them and you would be at great risk just taking it to the range. Over time, an unregistered handgun would become almost be useless.
where has this worked? How would this registration work? Simple and easy like DMV or something out of Kafka like DC?
On the plus side, if someone commits a felony, they'd know if they owned any handguns, Straw purchases would become to dangerous for family and girlfriends to do. It would be very easy to trace and return stolen handguns because crooks couldn't just take them to an out of state gun show and sell them.
Why would a crook go to a gun show in another state? Besides violating federal law, gun shows are crawling with cops. They would be better off bartering it for drugs.
I know most here hate the idea, however it would make it more difficult for criminals get them, either on the street or from a straw purchase. Everyone agrees here that law abiding citizen should be able to purchase a handgun for sport, hunting and self defense. Law abiding citizen are not the problem.
Most hate the idea of pointless theater, no evidence of it proving effective anywhere as advertised and, oh yeah, giving extremists an inch.

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Giving Gun Reform a Shot [View all] SecularMotion May 2012 OP
A high school newspaper? gejohnston May 2012 #1
Giving Gun Reform a Shot? - No thanks, tried it once, didn't like it. DonP May 2012 #2
I think you can control crime by disarming non-law abiding citizens. safeinOhio May 2012 #13
Handgun registration has been proposed several times in Congress DonP May 2012 #14
So what about that huge pool of guns that will never get registered? hack89 May 2012 #16
I'm sure it would work as well as the Marihuana Tax Act did... friendly_iconoclast May 2012 #17
Ummmmm the NFA is not why it worked gejohnston May 2012 #22
Yet, the excuses against handgun registration always include, safeinOhio May 2012 #26
historical fact, not excuses gejohnston May 2012 #28
Seems to be very effective safeinOhio May 2012 #29
there is no evidence that it would gejohnston May 2012 #30
This is from 2009, not that long ago. safeinOhio May 2012 #31
at the same time gejohnston May 2012 #32
No one... NewMoonTherian May 2012 #24
It's a shame that good ideas/posts are not accepted here. Hoyt May 2012 #33
We may never know. DonP May 2012 #41
There are numerous problems discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #42
No errors in that story Meiko May 2012 #3
cut the kid some slack, gejohnston May 2012 #5
Major Fact-checking Phale. PavePusher May 2012 #4
a high school junior in a New England prep school gejohnston May 2012 #6
The world must look very strange from those high school windows JustABozoOnThisBus May 2012 #7
Pretty campus gejohnston May 2012 #8
FYI discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #10
re: "The world must look very strange from those high school windows" discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #9
I have a very close college buddy who went to Exeter... Callisto32 May 2012 #11
I was once a proctor at one of those schools, back in 1970. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #15
They're pretty damn miserable? JustABozoOnThisBus May 2012 #18
You are getting rather desperate aren't you? GreenStormCloud May 2012 #12
That study in PA did not distinguish between legal and illegal carriers. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #19
Former Teaching Assistant of Dr. Kellerman? DonP May 2012 #21
Zmans CHP had nothing to do with his "job" as community watchman. ileus May 2012 #20
Responses to the article. Atypical Liberal May 2012 #23
Yeah, and Alabama and Georgia are two of the few states l might consider carrying. Hoyt May 2012 #34
Why not Florida? gejohnston May 2012 #35
Try to avoid it and Mississipi. Hoyt May 2012 #36
Florida is mostly gejohnston May 2012 #37
We have the highest per-capita count of PhDs in the country here in Huntsville. Atypical Liberal May 2012 #39
Huntsville is an exception -- I agree. Even know Meridianville and Hazel Green well. Hoyt May 2012 #40
The least you can do is give the young gejohnston May 2012 #25
I went onto the webiste to see if there was a Contact Us option. Callisto32 May 2012 #38
the parents aren't really paying for the quality education gejohnston May 2012 #43
Well, alright. But only *one* shot. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #27
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