Gun Control & RKBA

Atypical Liberal

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51. I think weapons absolutely embolden criminals.

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 06:11 PM

Jul 2012

I think it is silly to argue that weapons do not embolden criminals.

Who would walk into a room full of people without a weapon and demand them to give them their money? They would get laughed out of the place.

But with a weapon, they know they will get compliance through fear.

So there is no doubt that a man with a weapon will be bolder than one without one.

That is not the point.

The point is that good people can also be emboldened with firearms, as was the case in this crime - a good man was able to stop a violent crime because he was emboldened and enabled by his firearm to act.

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Today's shooting news once again makes the obvious obvious. [View all] Loudly Jul 2012 OP

With you. elleng Jul 2012 #1

Against you. Common Sense Party Jul 2012 #34

Nice way to put it . . . NOT. elleng Jul 2012 #35

smells like reincarnation to me. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #58

So are matches and lighters sarisataka Jul 2012 #2

How about this one? permatex Jul 2012 #3

Same problem. Loudly Jul 2012 #5

So tell us how to disarm the criminals hack89 Jul 2012 #22

"some" members don't want to disarm the criminals. Tejas Jul 2012 #31

Guns in the hands of the good guys ARE the solution to guns in the hands of the bad guys. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #23

Oh look permatex Jul 2012 #43

too bad those aren't OPs. Maybe they could rack up some Recs. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #57

An earlier contrary DU post shows that a law-abiding citizen may have saved the lives of himself and AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #4

Armed robbers. Loudly Jul 2012 #6

If you know, as you admit in post #5, that "One of the robbers has a gun," why would you post this? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #8

Bring me the "bat only" robbery stopped by the concealed carry gun. Loudly Jul 2012 #10

Thank you sarisataka Jul 2012 #11

Just calling the pro gun folk out on their lame postings. Loudly Jul 2012 #12

And if someone posted a link to a story where someone used a gun to stop an assault rl6214 Jul 2012 #14

So what is your solution to the problem? spin Jul 2012 #15

It was during the AWB that I purchased my first "plastic rifle" rl6214 Jul 2012 #46

You verify my point. Thanks. (n/t) spin Jul 2012 #54

do you hear what I hear? Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #59

The Gungeon is a tough place for many members of our party to post in ... spin Jul 2012 #61

There IS no valid argument for banning all firearms. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #63

I disagree ... spin Jul 2012 #65

Now if we could just rid ourselves Meiko Jul 2012 #17

Try supporting YOUR assertion!!!!! Spoonman Jul 2012 #25

I think Loudly has quietly left this thread. rl6214 Jul 2012 #47

I think weapons absolutely embolden criminals. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #51

Is it your stance Oneka Jul 2012 #33

If so wouldn't such a society be basically a police state? (n/t) spin Jul 2012 #60

Gun grabbers Oneka Jul 2012 #67

The term "gun grabbers" is somewhat offensive ... spin Jul 2012 #68

point taken. Oneka Jul 2012 #69

I always consider that when I am posting on DU it is a very liberal and progressive forum ... spin Jul 2012 #70

So you are a 'banner' sarisataka Jul 2012 #44

It'd be for the greater good of society....guns with ammo kill you know! ileus Jul 2012 #48

I believe the "Honorable" Mr. Deputy Mayor sarisataka Jul 2012 #49

TaliBanner: self-righteous, intolerant, convinced that their way is the only right and pure path Common Sense Party Jul 2012 #62

What are the points for this on your scale? CokeMachine Jul 2012 #73

one steaming cup of STF......... Tejas Jul 2012 #29

That's gonna leave a mark. Common Sense Party Jul 2012 #41

A gun also emboldened the stopping of the crime. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #50

Help me remember, folks.... burrfoot Jul 2012 #71

that is the consensus gejohnston Jul 2012 #72

They may not be the same person -- never mind I'm wrong --sorry!! nt CokeMachine Jul 2012 #74

Thanks! burrfoot Jul 2012 #75

Not until you provide a solution to disarm all criminals, everywhere. PavePusher Jul 2012 #42

But then, of course, the whole debate is moot. HALO141 Jul 2012 #78

It is a matter of belief sarisataka Jul 2012 #7

Or they believe that criminals who rely upon violence will allow them to telephone the police so AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #9

Well fuck. Marinedem Jul 2012 #13

Welcome to DU and the Gungeon. (n/t) spin Jul 2012 #16

Welcome to the group. ileus Jul 2012 #21

Thanks! Marinedem Jul 2012 #66

Welcome Marine.................Semper Fi oneshooter Jul 2012 #55

You say it's a resoundingly bad idea. What's the answer? Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #18

You find a single anecdote and claim it justifies restricting people�s rights SkatmanRoth Jul 2012 #19

One anecdote = the need for sweeping, unconstitutional confiscations from law-abiding citizens. Common Sense Party Jul 2012 #32

And then they act shocked that the NRA has such clout 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #39

If someone incites others to riot 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #38

Why did a gun shoot up that party....bad bad gun. ileus Jul 2012 #20

He took a plea for Burglary a while back. jeepnstein Jul 2012 #24

Only government employees and criminals should have guns slackmaster Jul 2012 #26

That LEO's who shoot 7year olds shouldn't have guns? Tejas Jul 2012 #27

Hey, Shares.... Callisto32 Jul 2012 #28

"familiar" Tejas Jul 2012 #30

What's your public policy solution? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #36

In his before life he was in negotiations with oneshooter Jul 2012 #56

What about chemical fertilizers and passenger planes? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #37

If the private possesion of every gun was banned.. MicaelS Jul 2012 #40

ZACTLY. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #64

Guns and drug abuse. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #45

big thumbs up! DrDan Jul 2012 #52

Agree. Don't let those who can't venture outside without gun or two strapped to their body deter you Hoyt Jul 2012 #53

NO cops should have guns. Tejas Jul 2012 #76

I have lots of trust in citizens doing the right thing. jeepnstein Jul 2012 #77