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(108,903 posts) Tue Jul 31, 2012, 02:08 PM Jul 2012

ILLINOIS GOV. PROPOSES STATE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN [View all]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ASSAULT_WEAPONS_BAN_ILLINOIS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-07-31-13-48-27

CHICAGO (AP) -- Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn is proposing a statewide ban on assault weapons.

The Chicago Democrat used his amendatory veto power Tuesday to call for changes in a bill related to in-state ammunition sales. It's now up to lawmakers to accept or reject the changes.

The deadly Colorado movie theater shooting has sparked renewed debate about assault weapons, and anti-violence advocates have called for similar discussions in Chicago.

Illinois is the only state without a concealed carry law, but an assault weapons ban still is likely to face hurdles.

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ILLINOIS GOV. PROPOSES STATE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN [View all] xchrom Jul 2012 OP

Illinois -- still taking the tax revenue from ArmaLite Arms the creators of the AR-15. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #1

Are any of these purveyors of fine semi-automatic firearms still located in IL? -..__... Jul 2012 #3

IIRC Les Baer packed it up and crossed the river to Iowa DonP Jul 2012 #6

Well that's just brilliant Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #2

Not the smartest of moves by Gov. Quinn... truebrit71 Jul 2012 #4

Down staters have had it with the calmeco702 Jul 2012 #5

This Illinois government? PavePusher Jul 2012 #7

Destroying freedom....how progressive. ileus Jul 2012 #8

In the meantime he's fucking the unions over royally DonP Jul 2012 #9

All caps. rrneck Jul 2012 #10

yes. if you follow the link -- AP does that so -- DOG CROSSES STREET would be all caps. nt xchrom Jul 2012 #12

Ah. I stand corrected. Sorry. nt rrneck Jul 2012 #13

Gutsy and smart man. I bet that'll have the militia types in the state all up in arms. Hoyt Jul 2012 #11

Do you wait for stories like this? Missycim Aug 2012 #15

It's best to ignore him. Pacafishmate Aug 2012 #16

Been right here a whole lot longer than you, I think. Hoyt Aug 2012 #20

That doesn't change your motivation. Pacafishmate Aug 2012 #22

You have been a member longer then I but Missycim Aug 2012 #34

"Predictable" -- so is every member of gun culture. Hoyt Aug 2012 #37

Your objections and "rationales" have remained HALO141 Aug 2012 #41

My post are consistent because gun lovers are consistently wrong about guns in society. Hoyt Aug 2012 #44

Just your opinion. You have a right to it. HALO141 Aug 2012 #50

Hoyt was actually spot on this time. ellisonz Aug 2012 #33

I know a fair number of individuals in Florida who own "black rifles" ... spin Aug 2012 #19

I can imagine what they are like and what they are preparing to "defend" themsleves from. Hoyt Aug 2012 #21

Nor do you have to be a "militia/KKK.etc, type" to own one ... spin Aug 2012 #23

Again, you may be the most wonderful gun owner in America. But that is not my experience with most. Hoyt Aug 2012 #24

Your experience Jenoch Aug 2012 #25

Zimmerman and Stawicki had a permit too, to name a few. Hoyt Aug 2012 #29

there is no evidence gejohnston Aug 2012 #32

He stalked and shot an unarmed teenager for being Black -- proof enough for me. Why not you? Hoyt Aug 2012 #46

because that is not what the evidence shows gejohnston Aug 2012 #51

Quite the opposite. HALO141 Aug 2012 #42

And yet you Jenoch Aug 2012 #48

There he goes, running away with those goalposts again........... Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #62

I wonder what percentage of CCW holders were hall monitors in school. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #35

Admittedly I know mostly regular target shooters ... spin Aug 2012 #30

We agree, most gun types are conservatives. You won't admit it, but that also means most are bigots. Hoyt Aug 2012 #49

Cool false dilemma, bro. rDigital Aug 2012 #63

You need new material xxenderwigginxx Aug 2012 #65

No, you need to take a dimmer view of conservatives and linked gun culture. Hoyt Aug 2012 #66

I realize that in our nation at this time ... spin Aug 2012 #67

So, what are you willing to give up regarding your guns? Hoyt Aug 2012 #68

Firstly, what are *you* willing to give up? In the spirit of compromise, of course... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #78

Don't think there is much else you need to get access to any gun you need to feel good. NRA and Hoyt Aug 2012 #80

Regarding my small collection of firearms ... spin Aug 2012 #81

So, there's a shooting in my home state (Colorado), Ashgrey77 Jul 2012 #14

Quinn claims the Illinois sailor was killed by an "assault weapon"? DonP Aug 2012 #17

Ummm, rifles accounted for less than 0.7% of Illinois murders in in 2010. benEzra Aug 2012 #18

Excellent!!!!!!!!!!! gopiscrap Aug 2012 #26

Why do you say that? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #28

Do you want it to mirror eagle308us Aug 2012 #31

Chicago has some of the strictest gun regulations in the country so logically they should be . . . 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #27

NRA Talking Point #12 bongbong Aug 2012 #54

So Chicago gejohnston Aug 2012 #55

Zoom! bongbong Aug 2012 #58

another example of gejohnston Aug 2012 #59

"Laws don't stop criminals, so why have laws?" 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #56

Laughs bongbong Aug 2012 #57

Do you know what a strawman argument is? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #60

Strawman bongbong Aug 2012 #69

And you do it again 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #70

Just trying to help you bongbong Aug 2012 #73

Your post was nonsensical 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #74

abhor bongbong Aug 2012 #75

You're boring 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #76

Education is boring bongbong Aug 2012 #79

So is your relentless goading of everyone who doesn't agree with you. HALO141 Aug 2012 #93

Cool straw man, bro. rDigital Aug 2012 #64

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #72

That's all he has 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #77

Baby steps, but in the right direction. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #36

right direction to what? gejohnston Aug 2012 #38

That's why they are baby steps Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #39

you didn't read the linked article did you? gejohnston Aug 2012 #40

Read the article (as hand waves away the facts)? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #71

The last AWB failed to reduce violence at all 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #43

I don't. That's why I said baby steps. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #45

So you realize it's worthless 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #47

I support him for having the balls to stand up to a mob mentality. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #82

Funny how democracy sounds scary when you just call it "mob mentality" 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #86

Fighting for gay rights is standing up to the mob mentality Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #90

Not once a majority support it 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #91

The resultant change would be a change of politicians. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #53

Unfortunately, you may well be right. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #83

Integrity? Equate Aug 2012 #87

Integrity? Yeah, that's why he helped short Union pensions by $83 Billion DonP Aug 2012 #88

I don't know the man apart from his stance on this, which shows integrity Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #89

integrity if he truly believes it gejohnston Aug 2012 #92

And some would say HALO141 Aug 2012 #61

Absolutely! It's up to us what kind of change we want. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #84

neither do third world countries gejohnston Aug 2012 #85

Do it ILL! Lint Head Aug 2012 #52