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Atypical Liberal

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42. Pistols are military weapons.
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 06:06 PM
Sep 2012
then indeed we should ban pistols and other non-military weapons

Pistols are military weapons.

and the military weapons in the hands of the civilian militia should be strictly regulated, as they are for example in switzerland.

Except this is not Switzerland. This is the United States of America, and per our Constitution, the people are to keep and bear arms suitable for use in a militia, and that right shall not be infringed.

I'm willing to endure some restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms, so long as they do not undermine the intent of the second amendment.

Also, as simply having such a weapon is useless for such purposes if you are not also trained not only in its use but in its use within a military organization, the well regulated civilian militia must also be trained to be a military organization.

Having a gun and no training is indeed bad when you need a gun. Having neither a gun nor training is worse. Fortunately, I train at least monthly.

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So -- just to be clear ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #1
The hypocrisy is simply delicious Missycim Sep 2012 #5
Those two things are not analogous in any way. djean111 Sep 2012 #2
Hey as a woman do you want to register to Missycim Sep 2012 #6
What would registration accomplish? GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #10
How is it a starting point when someone is murdered? glacierbay Sep 2012 #12
The gun violence in Chicago is largely caused by drug gang violence. ... spin Sep 2012 #3
Again --- Just to be clear BigAlanMac Sep 2012 #4
But they wont Missycim Sep 2012 #7
So is it "should not be in the hands" or we just want you to register them? ileus Sep 2012 #8
machine guns? gejohnston Sep 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author glacierbay Sep 2012 #11
Yet another Google dump ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #13
Thanks for the kick SecularMotion Sep 2012 #15
Just making them easy to find later and cite as examples ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #20
Thanks again SecularMotion Sep 2012 #21
Examples of what? Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #23
Google Dumping ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #24
what the heck is that? Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #31
A good place to start is this thread ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #35
Dumping news articles into the forum... ManiacJoe Sep 2012 #36
Unlike the thousands of similar "dumps" from your side? Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #37
I think the difference is posting something with personal commentary... eqfan592 Sep 2012 #43
You need to work on your reading comprehension. ManiacJoe Sep 2012 #45
News and opinion pieces are posted without comment in many forums and groups on DU SecularMotion Sep 2012 #46
This is exactly the point. ManiacJoe Sep 2012 #67
They are inventing new things to be outraged about Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #75
has backed several gejohnston Sep 2012 #76
Example of an actual Democrat posting in the gungeon. DanTex Sep 2012 #27
are you saying the DNC gejohnston Sep 2012 #28
Right, because anyone who supports the right to keep and bear arms can't really be a Democrat. n/t Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #32
That happens many times daily ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #34
How horrible for you to have to put up with postings here you disagree with Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #62
I was referring to DT's comment about real Democrats posting, pointing out that I and other real ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #73
Illinois has already registered every lawful gun owner slackmaster Sep 2012 #14
Register the clergy first. nt rrneck Sep 2012 #16
Big +1 Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #17
If this group of clergy Oneka Sep 2012 #18
I'd say we'd be... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #29
More ignorant, arrogant ass-hattery out of the nether regions of religion. PavePusher Sep 2012 #19
Good thing you and I don't approve of this sort of thing, right? rl6214 Sep 2012 #22
I can just see it now Union Scribe Sep 2012 #25
so the NFA paperwork gejohnston Sep 2012 #26
;) It's under... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #30
Yeah, their LEO letter of endorsement got hung up Union Scribe Sep 2012 #40
But the second amendment is ABOUT the military! Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #33
then indeed we should ban pistols and other non-military weapons Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #38
pistols are military weapons gejohnston Sep 2012 #39
Pistols are military weapons. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #42
That interpretation had been long ignored for good reason. eqfan592 Sep 2012 #44
Handguns are not used by the military in any capacity? Marengo Sep 2012 #47
swords are still used Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #48
"The original intent of the 2A was all about local militias" holdencaufield Sep 2012 #49
the USSC is free to ignore original intent Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #55
I COULD take your word for that ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #60
yes you would go with the republican court. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #64
It's also President Obama's stated opinion. Is *he* wrong, in your estimation? friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #77
Now, *there's* a way to quiet the SC critics- mention United States v. Jones. friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #82
I wasn't asking about swords, and you didn't answer the question that was posed... Marengo Sep 2012 #80
Yes they are. The current issue weapon is the Beretta M92 in 9mm. oneshooter Sep 2012 #84
Most of the bans pushed have been on "military style" weapons 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #51
Pretty much every type of weapon ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #56
Swords were used by the military for a long time 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #57
I was agreeing with the post I responded to. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #61
Hypothetical weapons? holdencaufield Sep 2012 #68
The 2nd amendment guarantees your right to have a phaser 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #69
Great! holdencaufield Sep 2012 #71
Question. What inevitably happens after a mass firearms registration? trouble.smith Sep 2012 #41
In australia registration and banning of semi-automatic rifles and shotguns Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #53
Do you even realize what you're saying? holdencaufield Sep 2012 #58
I'm saying that nothing more occurred. Tyranny did not ensue. Gun ownership remained legal. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #63
and their murder rate remained the same gejohnston Sep 2012 #65
Australians can own guns ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #66
So except for taking people's property using the force of law 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #72
Religion in the wrong hands has led to thousands/millions of deaths 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #50
Register bibles? holdencaufield Sep 2012 #52
I think it's only fair 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #54
"When I was a boy ... holdencaufield Sep 2012 #59
Since when do they get to say what people need? GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #70
For years the black churches have been what held the communities together ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #74
Gunners want no restriction on gun ownership upaloopa Sep 2012 #78
why has it been dropping? gejohnston Sep 2012 #79
What increase in gun violence? DonP Sep 2012 #81
That's just nonsense, upaloopa. slackmaster Sep 2012 #83
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