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slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
54. While we're on the subject of you misrepresenting my positions, let me straighten you out on this
Sun Nov 25, 2012, 11:29 AM
Nov 2012

1. I was born in Kansas and now reside in California. Kansas was admitted to the Union as a free state in 1861. I have never lived in any state that was ever part of the Confederacy.

2. No known blood relative of mine fought for the Confederacy. I have ancestors who fought in the Revolutionary War on the side of the colonists, and in the Civil War on the side of the Union.

3. I have never engaged in any kind of advocacy for secession, segregation, slavery, or any of the other traits that make the Confederacy a historical pariah in the eyes of most Americans.

4. No known ancestor of mine ever owned a slave. People on my mother's side were early Pennsylvania colonists who were pacifists and strongly opposed to slavery. My father's family was Mennonite. They immigrated to the USA in the 1870s. Mennonites are strict pacifists and have also always opposed slavery.

5. My advocacy for the right to keep and bear arms is libertarian at its roots. I believe strongly that people have a fundamental right to own, say, or do anything they please as long as it hasn't been prohibited through due process of law.

6. The security of a free state as mentioned in the Second Amendment refers to security at all levels, from the individual up to the society as a whole. If I feel that owning firearms is appropriate for my personal security or the security of my household, I have the right to own them. If you feel that owning a gun would not make you more secure, or if for any other reason you wish not to own one, I respect your personal choice. I ask that you respect mine in return.

I find it very odd that you would state to me "You lost the Civil War." Obviously that war ended almost a century before I was born. I have never made any statement that would logically connect me with the Confederacy or even the modern South.

Have you confused me with someone else? Or perhaps you have made a "package deal" fallacious assumption that my advocacy for individual freedom on things like abortion and gun ownership mean that I must somehow be connected with the losing side of the Civil War.

Either way, your remark makes no sense whatsoever. Is it intended as some kind of insult?

I concur! tblue Nov 2012 #1
But are bullies done with you? GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #7
God you're fast. Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #16
Violent criminals don't need to be armed either. Remmah2 Nov 2012 #35
True. N/T GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #43
it is called the laws of probability gejohnston Nov 2012 #2
Most likely he was a hidden criminal disguising himself as a lawful gun owner. nt mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #18
not likely gejohnston Nov 2012 #23
"most murder victims" lina92 Nov 2012 #62
no gejohnston Nov 2012 #63
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #65
Thanks for the input, & Welcome to DU. GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #66
Touting ageism and ableism again, Jason? friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #3
You should do a tiny bit of homework and stop calling me Jason. nt mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #19
How about 'the "Carolyn Keene" of gun control activism'?... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #45
Meaningless ... Straw Man Nov 2012 #4
"Your mind must be a very small and dark place." PavePusher Nov 2012 #12
Where did I say you're "equivalent to murderers?" mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #20
a distinction without a difference gejohnston Nov 2012 #26
Right here. Straw Man Nov 2012 #30
Stop being so subtle, Jason. Jenoch Nov 2012 #64
If you didn't exist the NRA would have to invent you. aikoaiko Nov 2012 #5
So my kids are no different from violent criminals hack89 Nov 2012 #6
Did I say that? mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #21
"They are all brothers of the gun." hack89 Nov 2012 #32
pics of perpetrator and car former-republican Nov 2012 #8
I'm one of the good guys. ileus Nov 2012 #9
I do not appreciate being called a murderer sarisataka Nov 2012 #10
You don't read very well, do you? mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #22
yes you do, by implying it gejohnston Nov 2012 #25
I read fine sarisataka Nov 2012 #28
Y'know rrneck Nov 2012 #11
Lte's see here...... PavePusher Nov 2012 #13
poor mikey OriginalGeek Nov 2012 #14
No, that's just typing too fast and not proofreading. mikeb302000 Nov 2012 #24
how much larger? gejohnston Nov 2012 #27
No, I don't think that's the problem. Straw Man Nov 2012 #31
I'll keep this short and simple so Mike doesn't have to proofread much: OriginalGeek Nov 2012 #37
Three out of three dead is unusual with a handgun. aletier_v Nov 2012 #15
The purpose of prohibitionism is to acquire a license to hate Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #17
Some carry a gun to compensate for a small penis Eyes of the World Nov 2012 #29
Use of firearms is a martial art. It is one that can be employed beyond arms reach. PavePusher Nov 2012 #60
Guns and ammo in the hands of the public is a stupendously bad idea. Loudly Nov 2012 #33
Because the government employees whose guns you wouldn't confiscate will always be there... slackmaster Nov 2012 #34
Your only constitutional argument evaporated at Appomattox. Loudly Nov 2012 #36
Then why doesn't the SCOTUS agree with you glacierbay Nov 2012 #38
They'll have another chance to get it right. The liberal dissenting opinion rocks. Loudly Nov 2012 #40
none of them were liberals gejohnston Nov 2012 #41
No glacierbay Nov 2012 #42
Let me answer for him....guns and ammo in the hands of civilians is a bad bad thing. ileus Nov 2012 #44
I'm still waiting to hear about silver dollars. nt rrneck Nov 2012 #47
Way up in price ileus Nov 2012 #48
If every individual in a free state is not secure, the state is not secure slackmaster Nov 2012 #39
PS fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #46
Two problems with your "You lost the Civil War." remark friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #49
No Bigotry fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #50
What on Earth have I ever said or done to connect myself with the South? slackmaster Nov 2012 #55
"Southern" California? Ntxt DonP Nov 2012 #56
Extreme Southern California. I live in San Diego. In fact, my neighborhood is called South Park. slackmaster Nov 2012 #57
see post 58 fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #59
While we're on the subject of you misrepresenting my positions, let me straighten you out on this slackmaster Nov 2012 #54
Ok fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #58
Excellent point, one must be assured of personal freedom and safety first ileus Nov 2012 #52
BMW 745.....nice car. Wonder it that tells us anything? ileus Nov 2012 #51
brother? oh. please. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #53
He has NOT been arrested. GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #61
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