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38. I SO want to have the courage of this conviction. I'm trying to speak up more but...damn.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 02:11 PM
Jun 2016

Let me start off by saying I am white as hell. Not only am I white, I'm a native Southerner. Not only Southern but Mississippi-Louisiana Southern, raised there in the last half of the last century when things were, shall we say, cataclysmic. Why I was always a liberal I do not know. I'm the only one in the family. But the other half of that insane dynamic is that you do not have the bubble from which you proclaim what would be amazing and ideal and wonderful for just every damn body because, well, aren't we all the same and aren't we all just like me?

No, we are not all the same. And some of us have fought one another and loved one another and been stuck with one another and had to work things out in ways that leave everybody beat up and hurting, and trying to figure out what we have done to one another and what we can bear doing in the future.

Frankly I was impressed that President Obama, who seems to have had a foot in so many worlds that he couldn't immerse in just one, could stand all the things we all projected onto him and stay sane. The man is remarkable as hell. But he's got all the constraints of having to actually FIGHT the fights that others can believe they'd surely do more purely or nobly or with more of exactly what they profess to hate, the blinders of ideology. You know, those people who have not had to live intimately with people they disagree with, and sometimes hate. And the alternative isn't NO ideology, as the idealists seem to believe. It's pragmatism. It's recognizing that you might hate a whole lot of things that people say and do but you have to live with those people unless you're willing to kill them or negate their rights, and you have to learn to get along in ways that advance everyone a few steps rather than grabbing them by the balls and being just sure their hearts and minds will follow. Cute phrase, don't work.

So, Hillary. Hillary is a pragmatist like I'm a pragmatist and a liberal like I'm a liberal. The crazy kicker is that I love those family members whose ways of thinking and acting have never been like my own, and I don't want to subjugate them any more than I want to subjugate the people they DO want to. In a way it's more liberal. Liberal isn't just "us." It's everyone. It's having good will and hopeful intentions toward people who make you nuts and recognizing that even when you have to take a firm stand and say "Oh HELL no" to some of the things they want to do, doing it by force without consideration makes you a dictator in the name of liberalism.

Progressive Unicorn Brigade irisblue Jun 2016 #1
It is the third, in what promises to be an extended rant ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #3
That was an excellent read JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #2
Please go back and read the previous two OPs at the link. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #4
The first blog posting JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #17
Yes ... Yes ... Yes. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #5
Thank you for proving the OP's point, Mr./Ms. whiteman that must make something perfectly clear ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #8
Excellent! K&R brer cat Jun 2016 #6
Man, ain't that the truth. giftedgirl77 Jun 2016 #7
Milt Shook is AWESOME!! Thanks for the links, 1SBM. Everything I read in his three OPs BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #9
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #10
These are outstanding rants, 1SBM! BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #11
My favorite line (from the Neoliberalism, My Ass Rant) ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #14
Exactly. eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #15
Of course Shook does a lot of name calling too . . FairWinds Jun 2016 #12
Yeah ... he did call a lot of names ... And, regarding the BB's treatment of John Lewis ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #16
Well, Lewis did apologize . . FairWinds Jun 2016 #19
Let's continue pretending that the BBs treatment of Lewis was unrelated to his endorsement ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #21
bookmarked site . ThAnk you for the link Person 2713 Jun 2016 #13
This is so good! mcar Jun 2016 #20
I am far less frustrated with the (progressive) Left's turning on President Obama than ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #22
I find it so hard to fathom how grown ups can think like that mcar Jun 2016 #27
I know ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #32
Yikes mcar Jun 2016 #47
Here it is ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #48
That's just sad mcar Jun 2016 #49
There certainly is a lot of Obama bashing around here... Blanks Jun 2016 #33
+1, even thinking someone who has no followers and no delegates and no down ballot money can uponit7771 Jul 2016 #64
Milt Shook sheshe2 Jun 2016 #23
K&R freshwest Jun 2016 #24
oooh JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #25
"Those people" cuts both ways. 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #26
Hell ... I proudly "outted" myself more than a year ago ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #34
Are Progressives perfect, and above reproach? No. 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #37
See that's the thing ... It's NOT about being on the right side of the issues ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #43
So how do you "relate" to the TPP? 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #45
I "relate" to TPP like most trade agreements ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #46
We've had about 20 years to see how NAFTA has killed US jobs .. 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #50
If I may ask DonCoquixote Jul 2016 #58
Perhaps 99th_Monkey Jul 2016 #67
Please do not define others as "not progressive" because they do not support your candidate. seabeyond Jul 2016 #66
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #28
This white progressive says hell yes they are. Orrex Jun 2016 #29
Wait ... I must be mis-reading this ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #36
Group Host - Please Clarify This Statement JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #41
That's how I read it, too. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #44
If you want to keep this group exclusive... fbc Jun 2016 #55
That's not how DU works JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #56
If and when Skinner changes that... sheshe2 Jul 2016 #57
Dumb.... Digital Puppy Jul 2016 #59
Reading simple and obvious headers at the top of a thread page must be so very difficult. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #60
In part I agree psychmommy Jun 2016 #30
Other issues were more important to other people JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #40
I vote in relation to my issues. psychmommy Jul 2016 #68
You've experienced America differently from me JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #69
our issues will never be represented if we psychmommy Jul 2016 #71
I'm involved in an FDR discussion in GD JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #72
I am not asking you to vote for anything. psychmommy Jul 2016 #73
You just made assumptions JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #74
What assumptions did I make? psychmommy Jul 2016 #75
I'm going to recommend this post 15 times. Orrex Jun 2016 #31
Thanks for posting this and links to the others Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #35
I SO want to have the courage of this conviction. I'm trying to speak up more but...damn. nolabear Jun 2016 #38
Omg--I love this guy ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #39
thank you DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #42
Great article. Thanks to you lovemydog Jun 2016 #51
See my post #34. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #53
Prescient indeed. lovemydog Jun 2016 #54
Wow, as I said in a comment on his blog The Polack MSgt Jun 2016 #52
This is fantastic! Most of us have been saying the same thing for years. The racism on the Political Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #61
K&R Jamaal510 Jul 2016 #62
The part about a black man sticking it to the establishment rings loud and true uponit7771 Jul 2016 #63
Pretty much it's super sekrit club "progressivism". forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #65
very interesting link heaven05 Jul 2016 #70
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