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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
30. What I said is 100% true.
Fri May 8, 2015, 03:24 PM
May 2015

Most people, including virtually all of the media, clung to the "witch hunt" theory and the "never tested positive" line way past the point where it was utterly obvious that he was as doped up as a human can be.

I don't see how this implies that people like Pantani and Ullrich were clean. Actually, the opposite. The fact that Lance was beating a field full of dopers (including people like Ullrich and Pantani who were not just doping, but also way more talented than him) was just more evidence that he was dirty. And the other ironic thing about your accusing me of being a "Schwinn-rider" is that people who actually knew anything about cycling had known that Lance was doped to the gills since back in 99. The "Shwinn-riders" got into the sport just to worship Lance, the never-would-I-ever-dope-because-cancer hero.

Yeah, cycling has a history of drugs. But it wasn't near as bad in the pre-EPO decade. The speeds went up a lot, you can see it in the times. Lemond, for example, rode clean, or at least mostly clean. Then he suddenly couldn't compete. And Armstrong wasn't your ordinary doper. He was an average professional cycling talent, who built up the most elaborate team-wide doping scheme that the sport had ever seen. Plus he was a leader in the omerta and bullying of anyone who tried to clean the sport up at all.

I'm not sure why, if you actually know anything about cycling like you are claiming, that you are sticking up for him.

I ride a Specialized. And you? Lemme guess... Trek?

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"Have you ever, like, actually watched a full football game"? trumad May 2015 #1
Probably? WilliamPitt May 2015 #5
It's a bit sad watching people apologize for the blatant cheating. DanTex May 2015 #2
actually I do not believe that is true wilt the stilt May 2015 #9
"The sport of cycling has been using some form of drugs for years back to Mercx". trumad May 2015 #10
so why pick armstrong out as a bad boy wilt the stilt May 2015 #25
and so are all the players in baseball wilt the stilt May 2015 #26
Huh? Who said Pantani and Ullrich weren't doping? Certainly not me. DanTex May 2015 #13
you imply that Armstrong wilt the stilt May 2015 #27
When did I do that? You sure you aren't responding to the wrong thread? DanTex May 2015 #28
this is your quote wilt the stilt May 2015 #29
What I said is 100% true. DanTex May 2015 #30
Like I said it is in the implication wilt the stilt May 2015 #31
They were all doping. Agreed. DanTex May 2015 #34
it's all in the calories wilt the stilt May 2015 #35
Armstrong's doping was secondary to his denials and dickish behavior.. frylock May 2015 #33
he was totally dickish wilt the stilt May 2015 #36
But that doesn't change the fact that he was a lying, narcisistic scumbag ..... marmar May 2015 #40
If they were so good - why did they need to cheat?? RockaFowler May 2015 #3
Will makes a good case for the farce this is... joeybee12 May 2015 #6
Oh snarf! trumad May 2015 #8
Oh MY God!! RockaFowler May 2015 #14
I make sure to respond to each of his posts now Capt. Obvious May 2015 #18
Thanks for posting... Capt. Obvious May 2015 #19
Actually, I think they probably didn't. DanTex May 2015 #15
I guess there is no further discussion on the matter? GusBob May 2015 #4
+1 Auggie May 2015 #11
How can you say this with a straight face? PeteSelman May 2015 #39
You nailed it... joeybee12 May 2015 #7
Not what I was hoping to read.. frylock May 2015 #12
They cheated. Again. They got caught. Again. Iggo May 2015 #16
A lot that you're apparently not getting... joeybee12 May 2015 #17
You don't get how in love Boston sports fans are with winning mythology May 2015 #20
awwww Goblinmonger May 2015 #21
How the heck did I miss not putting joeybee12 May 2015 #22
I know Goblinmonger May 2015 #23
Regarding point #1..... opiate69 May 2015 #24
Adios! joeybee12 May 2015 #32
Auf wiedersehen. opiate69 May 2015 #37
Dead on. PeteSelman May 2015 #38
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