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In reply to the discussion: NJ bank won’t notarize American Atheist documents for ‘personal reasons’ [View all]struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)60. hmmm
... In New Jersey, notaries are not required to abide by any code of conduct or ethics that prevents them from refusing service to people based on personal reasons, explained Knief ... The organizations legal team is drafting proposed legislation to keep this kind of discrimination from happening again. Update, 9:17 p.m. EST, March 27: ... American Atheists spokesperson Dave Muscato .. said that while Knief is preparing legislation regarding discrimination by notary publics, she is not doing so on behalf of American Atheists. He also noted that the Notary Publics Code of Professional Responsibility, while not legally binding, forbids notaries from discriminating based on religious beliefs ...
from the article linked by the OP
... New Jersey has an extremely strong law against discrimination, according to ACLU-NJ Legal Director Ed Barocas, which not only protects against discrimination toward someone who follows a certain religion, but also someone who does not follow one. This persons job is to notarize documents. If she denied providing that service because she personally disliked the fact that this group did not ascribe to her religion, or religion in general, that would be against the law, Barocas said ...
TD Bank notary in Cranford accused of denying service to atheist organization
By Tom Wright-Piersanti / The Star-Ledger
March 26, 2014 at 5:10 PM
updated March 27, 2014 at 11:15 AM
from the article linked by the OP
... New Jersey has an extremely strong law against discrimination, according to ACLU-NJ Legal Director Ed Barocas, which not only protects against discrimination toward someone who follows a certain religion, but also someone who does not follow one. This persons job is to notarize documents. If she denied providing that service because she personally disliked the fact that this group did not ascribe to her religion, or religion in general, that would be against the law, Barocas said ...
TD Bank notary in Cranford accused of denying service to atheist organization
By Tom Wright-Piersanti / The Star-Ledger
March 26, 2014 at 5:10 PM
updated March 27, 2014 at 11:15 AM
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NJ bank won’t notarize American Atheist documents for ‘personal reasons’ [View all]
LostOne4Ever
Mar 2014
OP
Well it was in a public place - i don't think she was embarrassed to be an atheist
el_bryanto
Mar 2014
#15
Interesting. There's nothing in there that specifically gives a notary the right to
Nay
Mar 2014
#19
I don't know the case law. Some states explicitly require notaries to perform their duties
struggle4progress
Mar 2014
#20
Lots of folk say and do stuff I don't understand. Take trolling on the internet, for example.
struggle4progress
Mar 2014
#26
Oh, I agree. I'm just discussing what-ifs. I've had to consult with other notaries myself as a
Nay
Mar 2014
#31
The NJ manual lists several different forms of documents to notarize, indicating
struggle4progress
Mar 2014
#28
We now have two quite different accounts. I don't have ESP so can't reconcile them
struggle4progress
Mar 2014
#37
Well the only one saying "Personal Reasons" wasn't part of the discussion is the Bank.
el_bryanto
Mar 2014
#45
We now have two quite different accounts. I don't have ESP so can't reconcile them
struggle4progress
Mar 2014
#53
I missed that declaration on the private school "not girly enough" thread.
Goblinmonger
Mar 2014
#54
Yes, that is my general impression of the "inerrant infallible Bible" folk
struggle4progress
Mar 2014
#55
Given that William of Ockham was a Franciscan friar and that he postulated his razor as a means
rug
Mar 2014
#63
THe school's bad attitude is on the record, unlike the bank's, and...
TreasonousBastard
Mar 2014
#57
Since you're spreading this crap here, too. Let me explain for the readers here
Goblinmonger
Mar 2014
#61