Religion

hrmjustin

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57. I answered your question.

Reply to cleanhippie (Reply #55)

Wed Apr 16, 2014, 04:18 PM

Apr 2014

You don't like the answer that is your problem but you will get no more from me.

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Religious Oregon teens wear ‘Gay Is Not OK’ shirts to school to protest lack of ‘straight day’ [View all] cleanhippie Apr 2014 OP

Such a condemnation of religion! rug Apr 2014 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author edhopper Apr 2014 #33

Considering religion is inspiring it... MellowDem Apr 2014 #87

Aside from your assumptions, which are a qualitative defect, this sample of a few teenagers rug Apr 2014 #89

What assumptions? MellowDem Apr 2014 #90

It's an assumption, and not a well-grounded one. rug Apr 2014 #91

For what it's worth, there is most definitely a straight day LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #2

yeah, I was thinking everyday EOM catrose Apr 2014 #62

every day isnt a special day of celebration Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #82

just a day of LOVE... handmade34 Apr 2014 #101

I guess this is better than posting about how religion kills kids. nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #3

I guess you could say that religion is killing these kids, too. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #4

Ah - thanks for clarifying. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #5

As long as there are posts about the positives of religion Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #6

How many believers posting here believe that Religion is 100% positive at all times el_bryanto Apr 2014 #8

Probably not many Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #9

I think that some clearly do el_bryanto Apr 2014 #12

I think it is pretty rare. Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #13

OK - I don't think you should be confident in describing your fellow atheists el_bryanto Apr 2014 #14

I'm not saying that people who continue to follow it Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #15

Unless you are simply being facetious, your last paragraph is spot on. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #16

Thank you - and I hope Goblinmonger understands that many atheists here feel the way you do. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #19

I don't know that it is "many" Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #22

Why would you be an atheist in that case? skepticscott Apr 2014 #23

If you believed that any religious benefit could be gotten by secular methods? cleanhippie Apr 2014 #24

A relationship with God. nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #25

Considering that "a relationship with god" is simply a construct of your imagination being the most cleanhippie Apr 2014 #27

I don't feel like I need to - we've had this discussion before. I'm sure you know where I'm coming el_bryanto Apr 2014 #29

You haven't provided any tangible benefit that comes from religion. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #32

So that's it? Nothing other than you personal relationship is a benefit? cleanhippie Apr 2014 #37

I'm sorry -I went to lunch. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #38

At risk of sounding like a meme, you are using circular logic. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #39

What is the value of a relationship - that's a big question el_bryanto Apr 2014 #45

You make the mistake of assuming that because I lack your belief, I lack the ability to empathize cleanhippie Apr 2014 #48

What did I say that lead you to believe I doubted that atheists could empathize? el_bryanto Apr 2014 #56

Relationships can be both positive or negative, depending on their type. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #58

This is the problem el_bryanto Apr 2014 #61

So you are unable to objectively answer the question? cleanhippie Apr 2014 #65

It would appear so. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #66

And yet non-believers are accused of having the narrow world-view. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #68

If you accept the premise that there is no God than el_bryanto Apr 2014 #71

You're ignoring what we've already proven. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #74

You've proven that to yourself, but declaring there is no God el_bryanto Apr 2014 #86

youve reduced the value of religion to belief in god. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #96

No I haven't. el_bryanto Apr 2014 #98

He can't post it in a safe haven. okasha Apr 2014 #20

I'm having a reasonable discussion here Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #21

And to think some want that person as a host here. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #28

Well, the good news is... Rob H. Apr 2014 #92

Whew. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #97

Thank goodness. n/t trotsky Apr 2014 #100

I know you're striving mightily to make the actions of a few teenagers a larger religious point. rug Apr 2014 #64

I merely added a crucial okasha Apr 2014 #88

Well it is certainly better than endless strawman arguments deliberately Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #93

It's a push. rug Apr 2014 #94

And who are you saying dos that? nt el_bryanto Apr 2014 #99

Religion is a force a postive in the world. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #7

Based on the discussion I'm having above Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #10

No, that is clear from history and current events. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #11

And I will admit it is clear that religions aren't 100% bad all the time Goblinmonger Apr 2014 #17

And religion is an equally, if not more, negative force. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #18

Exactly skepticscott Apr 2014 #31

That is an interesting point. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #34

That's all you have to say on the subject? cleanhippie Apr 2014 #35

There is truth in your statement. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #36

So how can your response of "religion is a positive force in the world" have any meaning? cleanhippie Apr 2014 #40

The faith of life after death. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #41

If I understand you correctly, "faith" is inherently a benefit? cleanhippie Apr 2014 #42

To me it is. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #44

How is religion a positive force for the world that cannot be gotten through secular methods? cleanhippie Apr 2014 #46

People can do good works and good things with or without religion. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #47

That we already know, and doesn't answer the question at all. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #49

Yes it does. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #50

Your answer INCLUDES secular methods as a source. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #51

I think I answered it. But to spell it out you don't need religion to be a force of good. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #52

In all seriousness, are you unable to understand this question? cleanhippie Apr 2014 #53

I have answered your question. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #54

Are you fucking with me or are you unable to comprehend the question? cleanhippie Apr 2014 #55

I answered your question. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #57

You gave a nonsensical answer. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #59

Have a great week. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #60

Are you still in high school? cleanhippie Apr 2014 #63

Wish you the best. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #67

If that were true, then you could answer basic questions and understand basic logic. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #69

Why? Because your an atheist? Don't you wish me the best? hrmjustin Apr 2014 #70

I wish you had the ability to answer basic questions and exhibited basic comprehension. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #72

I answered your question. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #73

I understand how you might think that. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #75

Or perhaps you can't read my answer. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #76

The only one talking in circles is you. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #77

Maybe you should put me on ignore. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #78

My sense of charity and compassion for those lacking compels me. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #80

Well don't expect me to respond to you anymore. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #81

Again, if you truly wished me the best, you would attempt to understand basic questions. cleanhippie Apr 2014 #85

That conclusion is based on observation and predictable results. rug Apr 2014 #84

I applaud the Episcopalian Church for standing up for what is right, they are an Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #95

I thought one of the comments below the article was funny Rob H. Apr 2014 #26

"straight day" is every damn day of the year. bunnies Apr 2014 #30

I agree with the ACLU LostOne4Ever Apr 2014 #43

Well, pure freedom of speech is a fine thing skepticscott Apr 2014 #79

I think the root of the issue Niceguy1 Apr 2014 #83