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21. 'Vital role'. Que?

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George Carlin gets street named in his honor, after compromise with Catholic Church [View all] trotsky Jul 2014 OP

Tres cool cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #1

I wasn't aware we needed to consult the church when naming streets they don't pay a dime for. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #2

That fucking church has waaay too much power. Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #3

News to me as well. n/t trotsky Jul 2014 #5

maybe they will take their tax dollars elsewhere! rurallib Jul 2014 #6

when naming a street here the city is required to get the views of the people on that street. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #7

And the renaming was effectively blocked by the protestations of ONE of them Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #8

Realistically politicians will not go up against a church in this city unless they will win. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #9

Is-Ought Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #13

Ok but the church has a right to an opinion. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #14

Did I say they didn't? Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #17

No but the chur h will always play a part in this city. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #20

I already addressed that point by posting the definition of the Is-Ought fallacy. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #24

I respect your opinion. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #27

The man swam in the East River. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #32

Good point. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #33

Doubtful. He grew up on the West Side. rug Jul 2014 #47

ROFL! He swam in RAW SEWAGE. longship Jul 2014 #78

Individual catholics have the right to an opinion. "The church" doesn't. mr blur Jul 2014 #65

residents of the block get a say and the church got one. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #66

Do you think The Humanist Association would object to naming their street Benedict XVI Drive? rug Jul 2014 #67

Did Benny grow up on that street? Lordquinton Jul 2014 #68

And if he did? rug Jul 2014 #70

More of less as an aside Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2014 #73

That's pretty funny. rug Jul 2014 #74

Churches don't pay taxes that upkeep that road, so they technically aren't 'on' that street at all. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #10

Yeah you try selling that in this ciity. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #11

Well, I wouldn't change it to 'satans butthole' or anything that wouldn't pass muster on any other AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #15

I understand your pov but in this city churches play a vital role. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #18

'Vital role'. Que? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #21

Churches in this city pick up the slack where the government doesn't for poor people. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #25

And that entitles them to naming rights for streets? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #26

The city asks residents of the street their opninion. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #29

Does it ask renters and other entities that pay nothing for the upkeep of the right of way? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #34

Yes it does. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #35

Where would I find evidence of that? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #39

I don't know the city website to find it but I can tell you from personal experience as a renter hrmjustin Jul 2014 #40

So renters don't pay anything for upkeep? goldent Jul 2014 #71

Directly? No, they don't. The property owner pays. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #72

"Satan's Anus" has a more melodic ring to it ... Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #53

Reminds me of another melody. rug Jul 2014 #54

Why should they have any control over something they make everyone else pay for? AlbertCat Jul 2014 #75

Rev. Dr. Samuel B. McKinney Avenue rug Jul 2014 #12

And? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #16

I bet he didn't pay taxes either. rug Jul 2014 #19

And? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #22

The members of that church do. okasha Jul 2014 #37

EVERYONE pays for it. And does new york do it differently? That's usually via property taxes. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #41

The church members okasha Jul 2014 #44

Not unless the state of New York is doing something really weird. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #45

In this case, it's the City of New York, a raucous, tolerant and diverse city. rug Jul 2014 #46

Irrelevant info is irrelevant. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #50

Considering this city is larger than your entire state, yes. rug Jul 2014 #52

That's not an answer. Does it allocate funds differently? AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #55

It is the answer. They allocate funds after listening to its people. rug Jul 2014 #57

Still not answering my question. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #58

First of all, naming this street cost no more than the cost of the sign. rug Jul 2014 #60

The church's objection to the name is based on Carlin's criticism of the church. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #64

Again, if EVERYONE pays for access to that street, okasha Jul 2014 #48

They pay part of it. Don't pretend I'm not paying too. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #49

Hmmmm. okasha Jul 2014 #51

If it says "objection is to the presence of the church at all." then you are hearing things. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #56

So if I belong to a gym edhopper Jul 2014 #42

Is either your gym or your workplace okasha Jul 2014 #43

Is the Catholic Church edhopper Jul 2014 #59

Rug can tell you more okasha Jul 2014 #62

Did Billy grahm grow up on that drive? Lordquinton Jul 2014 #69

I will have to take the A train to go and see it this summer. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #4

UPDATE: Clerical error puts Catholic church on NYC street named for comic George Carlin trotsky Jul 2014 #23

NOW it all makes sense. AtheistCrusader Jul 2014 #28

HAHAHA! trotsky Jul 2014 #31

whoopsie Act_of_Reparation Jul 2014 #30

Nice!! RIP Goerge. EvilAL Jul 2014 #36

Carlin: "�I used to be Irish Catholic. Now I�m an American." Dawson Leery Jul 2014 #38

"You know; you grow" FiveGoodMen Jul 2014 #61

Another one, Hoppy Jul 2014 #63

That is a very old quote from his more mellow days. CBGLuthier Jul 2014 #76

Any movie with George Carlin in it is intellectual entertainment. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2014 #77