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cbayer

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76. I am, of course, quite aware that these are different things.

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 12:23 PM

Sep 2014

And while there may not be hard data at this time, I think the author makes a reasonable case for why this might be true. But without hard data, it's difficult to take anything other than a position based on hypotheticals.

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The atheist libertarian lie: Ayn Rand, income inequality and the fantasy of the �free market� [View all] rug Sep 2014 OP

Rand Paul and Ayn Rand -- sure they are libertarians who lend atheism a bad name. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #1

Penn Jillette would have been a better choice for the picture. rug Sep 2014 #2

I think that may be stretching the point. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #3

Religious right-libertarians do the same thing. LeftishBrit Sep 2014 #4

Except that edhopper Sep 2014 #5

Paul is a politician. One cannot surmise with confidence that he is not an atheist. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #6

As can be said of any politician edhopper Sep 2014 #7

Do you know anything about the author? rug Sep 2014 #8

It doesn't matter who he is edhopper Sep 2014 #10

No, it does. An opinion can be regarded or dismissed depending on an author's knowledge of the topic rug Sep 2014 #11

It seems to be an odd brand of libertarianism, for many. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #13

Actually edhopper Sep 2014 #16

To the extent atheism is portrayed as the embodiment of cool, rational, progressive thought, rug Sep 2014 #17

That may be. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #22

Maybe we're just looking at it wrong. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #9

I wouldn't dismiss it so cavalierly. rug Sep 2014 #12

He may as well have said, Why would any atheist be Libertarian? LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #14

As I said edhopper Sep 2014 #15

That's not his statement. rug Sep 2014 #18

22% of americans edhopper Sep 2014 #19

Read the article. rug Sep 2014 #20

I did edhopper Sep 2014 #21

He states the demographics of self-identified libertarians closely correlate the demographics of rug Sep 2014 #23

It's a misuse of stats edhopper Sep 2014 #25

You're not saying that because we look alike, we must be the same people, are you? LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #27

That is not the conclusion offered as you well know. rug Sep 2014 #28

I think they need a political education, and to have their heads examined. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #30

Fair enough. rug Sep 2014 #32

Which kind edhopper Sep 2014 #33

He makes it clear in the first paragraph who he's referring to. rug Sep 2014 #34

I agree with that edhopper Sep 2014 #36

He is only counting edhopper Sep 2014 #24

Why are you so resistant to the notion of libertarian atheists?. rug Sep 2014 #26

Of course there are edhopper Sep 2014 #29

The author is a well-known activist and speaker. rug Sep 2014 #31

Every skeptic should know edhopper Sep 2014 #35

Any one should know not to ignore the data. But this isn't a monograph. rug Sep 2014 #37

Which is fine edhopper Sep 2014 #38

Now that's the argument isn't it? How big a problem it is. rug Sep 2014 #39

That is the discussion edhopper Sep 2014 #40

I see you're making good on your threat. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #41

It's going exactly as expected. rug Sep 2014 #42

You sure seem to post about it a fucking lot Goblinmonger Sep 2014 #43

As a matter of fact, I think it does mean something which should be followed. rug Sep 2014 #45

I would prefer you stop acting like Goblinmonger Sep 2014 #48

It's a good thing I don't really give a shit about your preferences or your meta mania, rug Sep 2014 #52

Then why'd you ask? Goblinmonger Sep 2014 #57

I thought you understood the nuance of a rhetorical question. rug Sep 2014 #59

He doesn't think we should post about religion in the A/A group. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #47

Isn't that rich? Goblinmonger Sep 2014 #49

Why would someone continue to read a group when they're so offended by what's posted? beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #53

No, Goblimnonger, this is the discussion board of DU. rug Sep 2014 #55

Oh noes!!1! beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #44

Unlike you, I can tell the difference between atheism and atheists. rug Sep 2014 #46

Thank Dawkins there are experts like you to set me straight. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #50

Actually, I think any random person on a street corner could do that. rug Sep 2014 #51

No you're special. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #58

It seem to me you're the one who popped in here. rug Sep 2014 #60

I'm not the one who keeps "abreast of DU gossip" in groups where I'm banned. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #61

No, but now you know where you can find it. rug Sep 2014 #62

Excellent linked article! JEFF9K Sep 2014 #54

Thanks. Libertaeianism is insidious wherever it appears. rug Sep 2014 #56

Why are Catholics edhopper Sep 2014 #63

Looks like most of the Tea Partiers are part of the Christian right too. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #64

I was being facetious edhopper Sep 2014 #67

Yeah I got that when I viewed the poll and article. beam me up scottie Sep 2014 #81

How in the world did that shoe get on the wrong foot? AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #69

What I wrote was nonsense edhopper Sep 2014 #73

I am being facetious as well. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #74

Yeah edhopper Sep 2014 #75

That is not the OP's claim at all. cbayer Sep 2014 #77

No, read it again edhopper Sep 2014 #79

Simple. Historically they are socially conservative. rug Sep 2014 #71

This is no surprise, is it? cbayer Sep 2014 #65

In this country especially edhopper Sep 2014 #66

One of the reasons I think this article is important is cbayer Sep 2014 #70

Unaffiliated edhopper Sep 2014 #72

I am, of course, quite aware that these are different things. cbayer Sep 2014 #76

Yes, edhopper Sep 2014 #80

So many different concepts that we first label and then try to quantify under those labels. LiberalAndProud Sep 2014 #78

It's not so much that I don't grasp it, as I don't believe it. AtheistCrusader Sep 2014 #68