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In reply to the discussion: Hi. I'm a militant atheist. Do you fear me? [View all]stone space
(6,498 posts)6. It's a first for me, too. But remember what they said about MLK, ...
...who one biographer called the Apostle of Militant Nonviolence.
Will Herberg, Civil Rights and Violence: Who Are the Guilty Ones?, The National Review Sept. 7th, 1965, pp. 769-770
It did not come easy for us in this country, under the weight of the vast influx of immigrants and the residual effects of the frontier tradition, to consolidate a secure internal order based on custom and respect for constituted authority; but finally we managed. This internal order is now in jeopardy; and it is in jeopardy because of the doings of such high-minded, self-righteous children of light as the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King and his associates in the leadership of the civil rights movement. If you are looking for those ultimately responsible for the murder, arson, and looting in Los Angeles, look to them: they are the guilty ones, these apostles of non-violence.
For years now, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King and his associates have been deliberately undermining the foundations of internal order in this country. With their rabble-rousing demagoguery, they have been cracking the cake of custom that holds us together. With their doctrine of civil disobedience, they have been teaching hundreds of thousands of Negroes particularly the adolescents and the children that it is perfectly alright to break the law and defy constituted authority if you are a Negro-with-a-grievance; in protest against injustice. And they have done more than talk. They have on occasion after occasion, in almost every part of the country, called out their mobs on the streets, promoted school strikes, sit-ins, lie-ins, in explicit violation of the law and in explicit defiance of the public authority. They have taught anarchy and chaos by word and deed and, no doubt, with the best of intentions and they have found apt pupils everywhere, with intentions not of the best. Sow the wind, and reap the whirlwind. But it is not they alone who reap it, but we as well; the entire nation.
It is worth noting that the worst victims of these high-minded rabble-rousers are not so much the hated whites, but the great mass of the Negro people themselves. The great mass of the Negro people cannot be blamed for the lawlessness and violence in Harlem, Chicago, Los Angeles, or elsewhere. All they want to do is what decent people everywhere want to do: make a living, raise a family, bring up their children as good citizens, with better advantages than they themselves ever had. The civil rights movement and the consequent lawlessness has well nigh shattered these hopes; not only because of the physical violence and insecurity, but above all because of the corruption and demoralization of the children, who have been lured away from the steady path of decency and self-government to the more exhilarating road of demonstration and rioting. An old friend of mine from Harlem put it to me after the riots last year: For more than fifteen years weve worked our heads off to make something out of these boys. Now look at themtheyre turning into punks and hoodlums roaming the streets.
http://themoderatevoice.com/15520/recall-the-words-of-the-national-review/
It did not come easy for us in this country, under the weight of the vast influx of immigrants and the residual effects of the frontier tradition, to consolidate a secure internal order based on custom and respect for constituted authority; but finally we managed. This internal order is now in jeopardy; and it is in jeopardy because of the doings of such high-minded, self-righteous children of light as the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King and his associates in the leadership of the civil rights movement. If you are looking for those ultimately responsible for the murder, arson, and looting in Los Angeles, look to them: they are the guilty ones, these apostles of non-violence.
For years now, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King and his associates have been deliberately undermining the foundations of internal order in this country. With their rabble-rousing demagoguery, they have been cracking the cake of custom that holds us together. With their doctrine of civil disobedience, they have been teaching hundreds of thousands of Negroes particularly the adolescents and the children that it is perfectly alright to break the law and defy constituted authority if you are a Negro-with-a-grievance; in protest against injustice. And they have done more than talk. They have on occasion after occasion, in almost every part of the country, called out their mobs on the streets, promoted school strikes, sit-ins, lie-ins, in explicit violation of the law and in explicit defiance of the public authority. They have taught anarchy and chaos by word and deed and, no doubt, with the best of intentions and they have found apt pupils everywhere, with intentions not of the best. Sow the wind, and reap the whirlwind. But it is not they alone who reap it, but we as well; the entire nation.
It is worth noting that the worst victims of these high-minded rabble-rousers are not so much the hated whites, but the great mass of the Negro people themselves. The great mass of the Negro people cannot be blamed for the lawlessness and violence in Harlem, Chicago, Los Angeles, or elsewhere. All they want to do is what decent people everywhere want to do: make a living, raise a family, bring up their children as good citizens, with better advantages than they themselves ever had. The civil rights movement and the consequent lawlessness has well nigh shattered these hopes; not only because of the physical violence and insecurity, but above all because of the corruption and demoralization of the children, who have been lured away from the steady path of decency and self-government to the more exhilarating road of demonstration and rioting. An old friend of mine from Harlem put it to me after the riots last year: For more than fifteen years weve worked our heads off to make something out of these boys. Now look at themtheyre turning into punks and hoodlums roaming the streets.
http://themoderatevoice.com/15520/recall-the-words-of-the-national-review/

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When did the preferred adjective for atheists change from "rabid" to "militant"?
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
#7
seriously? 64 years old somehow I haven't heard that one until now.. but I tend to use the term ...
2banon
Feb 2015
#59
I think the whole problem is that you don't mean the word the same way others understand it.
Rainforestgoddess
Feb 2015
#8
Your insistence on fighting a (losing) battle over the semantics of "militant"
Maedhros
Feb 2015
#79
I don't fear you and congrats on someone starting a mocking thread in the other room.
hrmjustin
Feb 2015
#84
Well i am not going to judge how they run their room but the threads speak for themselves
hrmjustin
Feb 2015
#94
I honestly hope you get a straight answer, because I'm at a loss. n/t
Rainforestgoddess
Feb 2015
#101
OK, I'm getting the picture. You are these two things but they are not related to
cbayer
Feb 2015
#121
If you self identify with a term that's insulting to atheists and is used by violent atheists
EvolveOrConvolve
Feb 2015
#130
Oh, I get it. You're comparing your experiences here to stigmatization homosexuals face.
Act_of_Reparation
Feb 2015
#143
An absurd and self-indulgent thread, moderators would have removed it back in the day.
NYC_SKP
Feb 2015
#166