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In Age of Science, Is Religion 'Harmful Superstition'? [View all]
In a nutshell, why are religion and science incompatible?
Theyre incompatible first of all, because they both compete to find truths about the universe. There are some fundamental truths about the universe that believers have to accept in order to be religious. Many Muslims see the Koran as literally true. To question any of that is to bring a death sentence on yourself. The reason why people are so concerned with harmonizing science and religion, as opposed to, say, science and architecture, or science and baseball, is because science and religion are competitors in the field of esoteric truths about the cosmos.
But we use different methods to ascertain whats true. Science has an exquisitely refined series of methods honed over 500 years to find out whats real and whats false. Richard Feynman gave the best definition of science I ever heard, Its a way to keep you from fooling yourself, because youre the easiest person to fool. Religion doesnt have a methodology to weed out whats false. In fact, its a way of fooling yourself. They have authority, revelation, dogma, and indoctrination as their methods and no way of proving their tenets false.
There are thousands and thousands of religions and all of them make incompatible claims about the universe. The reason that thats the case is because they dont have any way of testing those claims.
You call religion the most widespread and harmful form of superstition. Make your case.
One of the meanings of superstition in the Oxford English dictionary is a belief that is unfounded or irrational. Since I see all religious belief as unfounded and irrational, I consider religion to be superstition. Its certainly the most widespread form of superstition because the vast majority of people on Earth are believers. Other forms of superstition, like astrology, belief in UFOs or telekinesis, are nowhere near as widespread. And the damage that religion has done to humanity is far more than the damage that astrology or the belief in Bigfoot has done. This is the problem with ISIS and other Islamist organizations. It used to be the problem with Christianity, as well. People get killed because they dont share your beliefs.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/05/150531-religion-science-faith-healing-atheism-people-ngbooktalk/
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Since i am not free as you say i have to find out now if i can continue this conversation,
hrmjustin
May 2015
#49
There is a whole section of the O.T. that is a fairly accurate history of
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2015
#74
There's also a problem with being rigid and insisting everything follow the same pattern,
trotsky
Jun 2015
#117
Which is doubly hilarious because the is-ought problem is central to criticism of Objectivism.
Act_of_Reparation
Jun 2015
#179
Child abuse by the religious takes many forms...but unfortunately it happens all the time and
haikugal
May 2015
#35
When light is shone at dark corners of religion, the answer is "I take it on faith"
Yorktown
Jun 2015
#67
What I note is the petty way in which some try to settle discussions with mod reports
Yorktown
Jun 2015
#87
That is possible. There are several cases a week of hifes that are questionable.
hrmjustin
Jun 2015
#97
Skinner is answering ata right now. lets see if he responds to the request for an fsm group.
hrmjustin
Jun 2015
#135
Do you realize if i let FSM posts in interfaith or the prayer circle there will be hidden
hrmjustin
Jun 2015
#141
If i wanted you to get more hides i would not have banned you from those two rooms.
hrmjustin
Jun 2015
#149
While a noble and contrite act your admission may be, you didn't predict, you proclaimed.
cleanhippie
Jun 2015
#210
Oh come on we don't discuss things here we just relentlessly attack each other while skirting the
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2015
#73
Any set of beliefs and/or ideology that encourages you to suspend or not exercise...
Humanist_Activist
Jun 2015
#61
When people elevate religion to "another way of knowing" that is on par with science, yes. n/t
trotsky
Jun 2015
#110
For a man of his intelligence, he's surprisingly trite on this topic
struggle4progress
Jun 2015
#115
By all means read "Cat's Cradle." And definitely read it with both eyes open. - n/t
Jim__
Jun 2015
#216
besides ethics, religion conflicts with science and rational reasoning.
Warren Stupidity
Jun 2015
#230