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AtheistCrusader

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59. A majority of Americans oppose title two like protections for same sex couples as a protected class.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:21 AM
Aug 2015

That's a fact. I cited source. You didn't debunk the data, nor did you attempt to.

The remainder includes religious people with no opinion, and people who don't have a religion at all, thus, excluded from the remaining total.

So no, the facts are not on your side here. No matter how you slice it, pro civil rights religious people are outnumbered. Badly. By religious bigots.

Whereas, over in the secular camp, the bigots number 18% of the group. When I say 'yes I support civil rights, I'm an atheist', one can reliably infer the extent of that support from the simple fact that I am an atheist. That's the norm. That's the supermajority of secular people as a whole.

Of religious people, pro civil rights, akin to title two protections for same sex couples, is the outlier. The minority. The fully marginalized.

One would, statistically, reliably infer you are NOT in favor if all they know about you is; one is religious.

That's great that you are both religious and in favor of civil rights and presumably a progressive or close to. Great. We need more like you. A LOT more. Tens and tens of millions more.

Meanwhile, secularism is eating into the bigoted religious holdings at a much higher pace, more effectively in the courts, etc.

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'strengthened by' a tiny minority of religious Americans. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #1
but there exists an atheist bigot Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #2
... UrbScotty Aug 2015 #4
Trouble understanding subsets/supersets huh? AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #5
Uh... UrbScotty Aug 2015 #6
I supplied a link to hard data in my first response. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #8
Religious people do good things. Sorry. (nt) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #10
Too bad they are massively outnumbered by the religious people that don't. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #11
Most religious people *are* on the right side of history here. UrbScotty Aug 2015 #12
And yet they support their churches with time and money and attendance that the church cleanhippie Aug 2015 #13
It's more complicated than you think. UrbScotty Aug 2015 #14
Around there? cleanhippie Aug 2015 #15
Lots of LGBT and female Catholics out there UrbScotty Aug 2015 #16
That's the question I'm asking; Why? cleanhippie Aug 2015 #17
Premise of your argument: rejected (nt) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #18
I get it, Urb. It's a tough question many in your position don't want to face. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #19
I get it. Many people can't stand the thought that religion can do good things. UrbScotty Aug 2015 #20
Can you explain why you give time and money to an organization that actively fights against cleanhippie Aug 2015 #22
Keep making that argument so we can keep kicking this pro-religion thread to the top! UrbScotty Aug 2015 #23
Keep dodging the question and I will. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #24
Can you explain why you even care about what I believe and do with my life? UrbScotty Aug 2015 #26
If you can't, or won't, I can accept that. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #27
LOL! Nothing like a little projection every now and then! UrbScotty Aug 2015 #28
If it makes you fell better about it, who am I to judge. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #29
Except that, when you analyse the figure, it turns out only 47% of religious Americans agreed muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #61
Numbers apparently don't matter here. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #70
They don't matter to those who ignore/dislike support for equality. UrbScotty Aug 2015 #71
Pretending tables have been turned does not make it so. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #76
That's why I don't pretend. UrbScotty Aug 2015 #78
And you also don't back up your handwaving with facts or sources. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #80
We already talked about projection UrbScotty Aug 2015 #81
Anyone reading the thread can see AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #82
Absolutely sure you're wrong, again. Leontius Aug 2015 #21
Oh, look, yet another substanceless post. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #25
Time to strike a match. Leontius Aug 2015 #30
Please don't self-immolate. cleanhippie Aug 2015 #31
Yeah man, Associated Press is so full of shit, am I right? AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #32
The Blaze (the Glenn Beck-founded site you cited) is full of it, that's for sure UrbScotty Aug 2015 #33
Did not know that. Do you dispute what AP/GfK reported? AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #34
It disputes your argument that a "tiny minority" supports equality (nt) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #36
Not if you can do basic arithmetic. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #39
Ha! UrbScotty Aug 2015 #41
Too bad you don't know what sort of fallacy your post is. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #43
LOL! That same exact poll shows that a majority of these groups support equality: UrbScotty Aug 2015 #45
UU's are less than 1% of the populace. Why does that excite you? AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #46
:-) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #52
62% of white mainline Protestants. A vanishing group that went from 41m to 36m in 7 years. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #47
Off by more than 20 million UrbScotty Aug 2015 #51
That's one estimate. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #53
No amount of deflecting will change the truth. Sorry. (nt) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #54
How the hell is that a deflection? AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #56
Your criticism is based on what you want to be true - not on actual facts. (nt) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #57
A majority of Americans oppose title two like protections for same sex couples as a protected class. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #59
The 'new generation' of milennials is overwhelmingly secular and support civil rights. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #48
HA! A majority of millennials (like myself) are still religious! UrbScotty Aug 2015 #49
I used the wrong word. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #55
Adding together all religious groups, more millennials have a religious belief than don't. UrbScotty Aug 2015 #58
The religious have mutually exclusive beliefs. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #60
Believers are believers. And 2/3 of millennials are believers! :-) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #62
You say 'sorry' I say 'good' because that population is trending down. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #63
You know what's good? Young people (who mostly believe in God) support marriage equality! UrbScotty Aug 2015 #64
Belief in god carries all sorts of odd baggage. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #65
If belief carries baggage, atheism must carry baggage too. (nt) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #66
Why? Atheism isn't a belief. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #67
There are many beliefs. If everyone else's beliefs have baggage (as you suggest), then UrbScotty Aug 2015 #68
Except atheism isn't a belief. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #69
There's no dodging it. Goose, gander. :-) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #72
Basic english. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #73
:-) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #74
Well, if it pleases you to be wrong, be my guest. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #75
Wanting something to be wrong, doesn't make it so. UrbScotty Aug 2015 #77
Says the one pretending a lack of theistic belief is a belief of its own. AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #79
The AP didn't make the full of shit statement Leontius Aug 2015 #40
Prove it AtheistCrusader Aug 2015 #44
K&R rug Aug 2015 #3
Good article! Cameron Partridge preached at my parish's pride celebration. hrmjustin Aug 2015 #7
Glad to hear you liked hearing him! (nt) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #9
... LostOne4Ever Aug 2015 #35
:-) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #37
:P LostOne4Ever Aug 2015 #38
:-) UrbScotty Aug 2015 #42
That is sooooo 2000 and late... LostOne4Ever Aug 2015 #50
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