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Manifestor_of_Light

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80. Argument from design. Also known as the teleological argument.
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:13 AM
May 2016

I know someone who would be happy to explain the Big Bang and the origin of the universe to you. He can talk about the strong nuclear force, gravity, general relativity, special relativity, and lots of other concepts in physics to you. Such as the Planck length, the Planck constant, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, the Schrodinger equation, the Compton wavelength, angular momentum, the deBroglie hypothesis about photons (light) acting like waves or particles, the Fitzgerald-Lorenz transformation in relativity when you near the speed of light, and anything else you want to know in quantum mechanics.

My husband has a B.S. and M.S. in physics and is fascinated with subatomic particles (quarks), their characteristics(spin, color, charm and strangeness), and the forces working at such tiny distances. The kind of stuff they are working on at CERN in Switzerland.

He'd be glad to discuss the forces with you. And he knows his calculus and other higher math pretty well. In college, he was known as "that guy that hangs out at the student union and talks in equations".

There are billions of galaxies, billions or trillions of stars and planets.

Our Sun is an average star, operating on nuclear fusion of hydrogen into helium at very high temperatures, and we are on a pretty average planet, especially since NASA has discovered a lot more planets around stars with their space telescopes. Basically, the further out into space we can see, the more it looks like our solar system and our earth are not exceptional.

Edwin Hubble, due to observing red shift, confirmed the Friedmann hypothesis of the expansion of space, based on general relativity, popularly known as the Big Bang. This was in 1931. The universe is expanding, and at this point it is 13.7 billion light-years across, as far as we know.

Thinking about huge distances in light-years and the formation of the universe is far more awe inspiring to me than old stories about a petty, small-minded mass murdering god in the bible who is supposedly the creator of ridiculous rules. Reading about all the pioneers of science and astronomy such as Galileo (held under house arrest by the church), Copernicus, Kepler (whose mother was imprisoned for years on suspicion of being a witch, Newton, Einstein, and many others, is inspiring. Fighting against a church who thought the world was flat and stamped out scientific investigation by imprisoning and barbecuing scientists, torturing them alive. We could not have landed humans on the moon without the foundations provided by the people I mentioned. Landing men on the moon is a glorious accomplishment based on Newton's laws of motion and Kepler's laws of planetary motion, among other things.


“How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, “This is better than we thought! The Universe is much bigger than our prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant?” Instead they say, “No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way.” A religion, old or new, that stressed the magnificence of the Universe as revealed by modern science might be able to draw forth reserves of reverence and awe hardly tapped by the conventional faiths.”

― Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space



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He's at least a generation late to the "relationship not religion" schtick whatthehey May 2016 #1
He never writes, he never calls. Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #5
You have five senses. seekthetruth May 2016 #76
I've seen no evidence that god exists. Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #78
And again. seekthetruth May 2016 #79
Argument from design. Also known as the teleological argument. Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #80
But still..... seekthetruth May 2016 #81
We don't have a complete understanding of the universe. Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #82
The HuffPo sure seems intent on being America's answer to the Daily Mail. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #2
Why are you reposting a contributor to Glenn Beck's site? rug May 2016 #3
This geezer says "The older I become, the more allergic I become to... elfin May 2016 #4
Slight correction: Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #6
Yes - also, those humans have been ascribed "magical" or extraordinary powers by subsequent humans elfin May 2016 #7
Buddha and Mohammed are not worshipped, which many Christians believe. Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #9
Perhaps dogmatically they are not worshipped... cleanhippie May 2016 #12
I was told by a Buddhist nun once Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #18
I appreciate you confirming my point. cleanhippie May 2016 #39
I know too many good religious Christians to fill my life with hate. stone space May 2016 #8
Really? trotsky May 2016 #10
That's not hate, that's civil discourse! cleanhippie May 2016 #11
Locked and loaded. mr blur May 2016 #15
What's with the gun-speak? stone space May 2016 #21
Creepy smiley you got there. stone space May 2016 #24
How gun control could help prevent suicides stone space May 2016 #51
What's with the gun-speak? stone space May 2016 #20
Yes, really. Why should I hate religious Christians? stone space May 2016 #19
You can have em all mdbl May 2016 #26
Actually, I'm married to a Christian. stone space May 2016 #27
Your upside Cartoonist May 2016 #68
Gun Worship is a filthy religion. stone space May 2016 #69
So now you know. Cartoonist May 2016 #70
Bang! Major Nikon May 2016 #71
hopefully, you are too then mdbl May 2016 #28
Hopefully, I am what? stone space May 2016 #29
you said you are married to a christian mdbl May 2016 #30
I'm an atheist. Life is fine. stone space May 2016 #31
glad you're happy mdbl May 2016 #32
Very happy! stone space May 2016 #33
Are you saying there are hateful Christians here? Lordquinton May 2016 #60
No. stone space May 2016 #65
Then who here is hateful? Lordquinton May 2016 #66
Nice attempt to walk it back. trotsky May 2016 #35
Again, why should I hate Christians? stone space May 2016 #36
Why should you hate red herrings? trotsky May 2016 #37
I don't hate Christians. There is nothing to be gained by hating Christians. stone space May 2016 #41
"to fill my life with hate." trotsky May 2016 #42
How would my life be improved by hating Christians? stone space May 2016 #43
Don't you dare accuse me of trolling. trotsky May 2016 #44
Nobody is bullying you. But you do appear to be trolling your own OP. stone space May 2016 #45
You cannot silence me. I will not let you succeed. trotsky May 2016 #46
Why are you trolling your own OP? stone space May 2016 #47
You can accuse me of trolling all you want - I will not be bullied! trotsky May 2016 #48
But why are you trolling your own OP? Nobody's bullying you. stone space May 2016 #49
Stop with the bullying! trotsky May 2016 #50
Why are you trolling your own OP? stone space May 2016 #52
I am not. No amount of your bullying will silence me. trotsky May 2016 #54
I am unarmed. I have no weapons. stone space May 2016 #56
Aiee! Another one! trotsky May 2016 #57
We don't need Hate or Weapons. Love Trumps Hate. stone space May 2016 #58
I don't like Trump! Quit waving that weapon around! n/t trotsky May 2016 #61
Love Trumps Hate. We don't need any weapons here. stone space May 2016 #67
Eww, Trump. trotsky May 2016 #74
. rug May 2016 #55
Can you not separate the people from the religion? Lordquinton May 2016 #59
"The idea that righteousness is achieved" - like calling yourself an "inspirational blogger"? muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #13
Well he didn't say it was *difficult* to achieve! ;-) trotsky May 2016 #14
He's inspirational, alright. Act_of_Reparation May 2016 #17
Why discriminate? Hate it all. mr blur May 2016 #16
You hate atheists as well? stone space May 2016 #22
Oh do grow up. mr blur May 2016 #23
I'm not the one who barged into this thread locked and loaded with hate and a suicidal smiley. stone space May 2016 #25
I don't "hate" you, you silly man. mr blur May 2016 #34
And what do you mean, "barged"? Is it Invitation Only? mr blur May 2016 #38
You barged in locked and loaded with hate and a suicidal smilie. stone space May 2016 #40
Face it, Blur..... A HERETIC I AM May 2016 #62
This is true. I have medals for it. And a badge. mr blur May 2016 #63
.... A HERETIC I AM May 2016 #64
Teacher, how shall we pray? guillaumeb May 2016 #53
Which makes all churches heretical? Brettongarcia May 2016 #72
Praying to the Creator and joining in fellowship are not guillaumeb May 2016 #75
"How shall we fuck off, O Lord?" Brettongarcia May 2016 #73
Let us prey Angry Dragon May 2016 #77
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