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Brettongarcia

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18. Moses asserted Jews had been "promised" Israel.

Wed Sep 21, 2016, 04:25 PM

Sep 2016

On that premise, he left Egypt and actually, successfully, it seems to many, invaded Israel or Canaan.

The promise and invasion of Israel, next, was just the first part of a larger promise. That they should eventually fight and conquer the whole "world," and all "nations," and all the "earth."

Some argue that Christianity fulfilled this promise, by winning WW II. And in effect controlling the whole world, at least loosely.

In any case, these alarming, violent directives have already been partially acted on. And the larger program is still on the books; partly motivating some conservatives' violently imperialistic wars.

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Pope and world religious leaders vow to oppose terror in God's name [View all] rug Sep 2016 OP

You know, I think they've done this before. LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #1

Last November. rug Sep 2016 #2

Oh, so that's why ISIS surrendered, we pulled our troops LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #3

Might make you wonder if something other than religion is going on. rug Sep 2016 #4

Yeah, just think how depraved we'd be. LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #5

How did the Israelites treat Canaanites, Philistines? Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #6

How did the Romans feel when they forcibly occupied Palestine? rug Sep 2016 #7

Romans? Same as the Israelis; but not quite as angry. Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #8

Since you're describing 2,000 year old emotions, add this: rug Sep 2016 #9

Like the Bible promising Israeli global domination? Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #10

No, like Alexander, et sequelae. rug Sep 2016 #11

Every knee must bow to the Lord? Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #12

Empires are built on missiles not epistles. rug Sep 2016 #13

So God ordering an invasion, etc., was irrelevant? Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #14

Since it didn't happen it's irrelevant. rug Sep 2016 #17

Moses asserted Jews had been "promised" Israel. Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #18

This borders on anti-Semitism. rug Sep 2016 #20

It's from the Old Testament, as quoted in part above. Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #21

Google: "That the Jews should eventually fight and conquer the whole "world," and all "nations," rug Sep 2016 #22

Then go on to serious scholarly research on Zionism, the Day of the Lord, etc.. Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #24

Do you want me to read The Protocols too? rug Sep 2016 #25

Others cherry-pick the peaceful parts. Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #26

And don't promote anti-semitism in the guise of antitheism. rug Sep 2016 #27

Atheists don't discriminate; they avoid ALL religions Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #29

I'm talking about your posts in this subthread. Don't try to blend into a group. rug Sep 2016 #31

So let us read Psalm 2.8. Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #32

For starters, I'd read the whole thing, not one line. rug Sep 2016 #33

It starts as a complaint that God is not giving what he promised Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #34

"It is not a zionist blueprint for world domination." rug Sep 2016 #35

Ps. 22 begins noting God is not fulfilling his promise. Then? Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #36

Completely inane. rug Sep 2016 #37

God "shattering" the nations isn't just a metaphor for say, Gods soul-shattering reform of our life Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #38

Do you understand the main theme running through the Old Testament is the sovereignity of YHWH? rug Sep 2016 #39

The wars went on for some time. Recently? Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #40

If you're drawing a kline between the legendary battles of the Old testament and rug Sep 2016 #41

It didn't happen? Why do you say that? Lordquinton Sep 2016 #43

It's far better to work for peace than the alternative. cpwm17 Sep 2016 #15

I've heard priests defend executing apostates Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #16

Do Christian Pacifists merely "pretend" to follow the Bible? stone space Sep 2016 #19

Here Christians look violently pacifistic Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #23

Again, do Christian Pacifists merely "pretend" to follow the Bible? stone space Sep 2016 #28

There are apparently sincere Christian pacifists. However? Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #30

Do you know of any atheist pacifists? rug Sep 2016 #42

Wow. This was sure left hanging. stone space Oct 2016 #44

She was raised a Quaker. Did she become a nonbeliever? rug Oct 2016 #45