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rug

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33. For starters, I'd read the whole thing, not one line.
Thu Sep 22, 2016, 07:34 AM
Sep 2016

1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Why art thou so far from helping me, from the words of my groaning?
2 O my God, I cry by day, but thou dost not answer;
and by night, but find no rest.
3 Yet thou art holy,
enthroned on the praises of Israel.
4 In thee our fathers trusted;
they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
5 To thee they cried, and were saved;
in thee they trusted, and were not disappointed.
6 But I am a worm, and no man;
scorned by men, and despised by the people.
7 All who see me mock at me,
they make mouths at me, they wag their heads;
8 “He committed his cause to the Lord; let him deliver him,
let him rescue him, for he delights in him!”
9 Yet thou art he who took me from the womb;
thou didst keep me safe upon my mother’s breasts.
10 Upon thee was I cast from my birth,
and since my mother bore me thou hast been my God.
11 Be not far from me,
for trouble is near
and there is none to help.
12 Many bulls encompass me,
strong bulls of Bashan surround me;
13 they open wide their mouths at me,
like a ravening and roaring lion.
14 I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint;
my heart is like wax,
it is melted within my breast;
15 my strength is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue cleaves to my jaws;
thou dost lay me in the dust of death.
16 Yea, dogs are round about me;
a company of evildoers encircle me;
they have pierced my hands and feet—
17 I can count all my bones—
they stare and gloat over me;
18 they divide my garments among them,
and for my raiment they cast lots.
19 But thou, O Lord, be not far off!
O thou my help, hasten to my aid!
20 Deliver my soul from the sword,
my life[c] from the power of the dog!
21 Save me from the mouth of the lion,
my afflicted soul[d] from the horns of the wild oxen!
22 I will tell of thy name to my brethren;
in the midst of the congregation I will praise thee:
23 You who fear the Lord, praise him!
all you sons of Jacob, glorify him,
and stand in awe of him, all you sons of Israel!
24 For he has not despised or abhorred
the affliction of the afflicted;
and he has not hid his face from him,
but has heard, when he cried to him.
25 From thee comes my praise in the great congregation;
my vows I will pay before those who fear him.
26 The afflicted[e] shall eat and be satisfied;
those who seek him shall praise the Lord!
May your hearts live for ever!
27 All the ends of the earth shall remember
and turn to the Lord;
and all the families of the nations
shall worship before him.[f]
28 For dominion belongs to the Lord,
and he rules over the nations.
29 Yea, to him[g] shall all the proud of the earth bow down;
before him shall bow all who go down to the dust,
and he who cannot keep himself alive.
30 Posterity shall serve him;
men shall tell of the Lord to the coming generation,
31 and proclaim his deliverance to a people yet unborn,
that he has wrought it.

It is David speaking to his God, asking relief from the suffering in the world, from the Creator iof the world.

It is not a zionist blueprint for world domination.

You know, I think they've done this before. LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #1
Last November. rug Sep 2016 #2
Oh, so that's why ISIS surrendered, we pulled our troops LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #3
Might make you wonder if something other than religion is going on. rug Sep 2016 #4
Yeah, just think how depraved we'd be. LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #5
How did the Israelites treat Canaanites, Philistines? Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #6
How did the Romans feel when they forcibly occupied Palestine? rug Sep 2016 #7
Romans? Same as the Israelis; but not quite as angry. Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #8
Since you're describing 2,000 year old emotions, add this: rug Sep 2016 #9
Like the Bible promising Israeli global domination? Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #10
No, like Alexander, et sequelae. rug Sep 2016 #11
Every knee must bow to the Lord? Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #12
Empires are built on missiles not epistles. rug Sep 2016 #13
So God ordering an invasion, etc., was irrelevant? Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #14
Since it didn't happen it's irrelevant. rug Sep 2016 #17
Moses asserted Jews had been "promised" Israel. Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #18
This borders on anti-Semitism. rug Sep 2016 #20
It's from the Old Testament, as quoted in part above. Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #21
Google: "That the Jews should eventually fight and conquer the whole "world," and all "nations," rug Sep 2016 #22
Then go on to serious scholarly research on Zionism, the Day of the Lord, etc.. Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #24
Do you want me to read The Protocols too? rug Sep 2016 #25
Others cherry-pick the peaceful parts. Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #26
And don't promote anti-semitism in the guise of antitheism. rug Sep 2016 #27
Atheists don't discriminate; they avoid ALL religions Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #29
I'm talking about your posts in this subthread. Don't try to blend into a group. rug Sep 2016 #31
So let us read Psalm 2.8. Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #32
For starters, I'd read the whole thing, not one line. rug Sep 2016 #33
It starts as a complaint that God is not giving what he promised Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #34
"It is not a zionist blueprint for world domination." rug Sep 2016 #35
Ps. 22 begins noting God is not fulfilling his promise. Then? Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #36
Completely inane. rug Sep 2016 #37
God "shattering" the nations isn't just a metaphor for say, Gods soul-shattering reform of our life Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #38
Do you understand the main theme running through the Old Testament is the sovereignity of YHWH? rug Sep 2016 #39
The wars went on for some time. Recently? Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #40
If you're drawing a kline between the legendary battles of the Old testament and rug Sep 2016 #41
It didn't happen? Why do you say that? Lordquinton Sep 2016 #43
It's far better to work for peace than the alternative. cpwm17 Sep 2016 #15
I've heard priests defend executing apostates Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #16
Do Christian Pacifists merely "pretend" to follow the Bible? stone space Sep 2016 #19
Here Christians look violently pacifistic Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #23
Again, do Christian Pacifists merely "pretend" to follow the Bible? stone space Sep 2016 #28
There are apparently sincere Christian pacifists. However? Brettongarcia Sep 2016 #30
Do you know of any atheist pacifists? rug Sep 2016 #42
Wow. This was sure left hanging. stone space Oct 2016 #44
She was raised a Quaker. Did she become a nonbeliever? rug Oct 2016 #45
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