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1. One can have both prayer AND human action.

Sat Sep 30, 2017, 11:09 AM

Sep 2017

One does not preclude the other.

Best wishes for your brother and his family.

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Prayer vs. Human Action [View all] MineralMan Sep 2017 OP

One can have both prayer AND human action. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #1

Of course. One makes the non-patient feel better, MineralMan Sep 2017 #2

Your first paragraph perfectly summarizes the issue. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #4

I do not discuss religious issues with family members. MineralMan Sep 2017 #6

Understood. Definitely a dilemma. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #7

I am authorized for those updates, but must rely on my nephew, MineralMan Sep 2017 #8

" I would respond to him that his prayers are undoubtedly of worth" Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #13

Not a lie. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #14

That is still lying. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #15

Are you the final authority on what is important to the son? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #16

It's being deliberately vague in order to hide your meaning marylandblue Oct 2017 #17

With his father suffering and in the hospital, guillaumeb Oct 2017 #18

I suggest sticking to their common point of agreement marylandblue Oct 2017 #19

You recognize that the effect is on the one who is praying, MineralMan Sep 2017 #5

And his father, who was mentioned to be non-religious Lordquinton Oct 2017 #20

Well, in this situation, it's because he's in a position of power. Mariana Oct 2017 #21

Using his position to push his agenda Lordquinton Oct 2017 #24

This is the best point Lordquinton Oct 2017 #23

What gets me is how little prayers used to work marylandblue Sep 2017 #10

Before modern medicine and medications developed, often MineralMan Oct 2017 #11