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DetlefK

(16,670 posts) Wed May 9, 2018, 03:31 AM May 2018

Question about "Jesus died for our sins" [View all]

Does that mean that due to Jesus' self-sacrifice our sins are preemptively forgiven?

Does that mean that people no longer go to hell for their sins?

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Question about "Jesus died for our sins" [View all] DetlefK May 2018 OP

'Hell' is the condition of being eternally distanced from God. sprinkleeninow May 2018 #1

So, the sins are only preemptively forgiven if you believe in him. DetlefK May 2018 #2

It isn't to singularly 'believe' as I have outlined. sprinkleeninow May 2018 #3

How do we know it was voluntary? Major Nikon May 2018 #20

From the stories, it doesn't seem like it was all that voluntary. Mariana May 2018 #25

Bc He was fully man and fully God. sprinkleeninow May 2018 #36

Must have picked that up after the fact Major Nikon May 2018 #43

Noyes' "perfectionist" sect did feel that they could "sin" without penalty, I believe. rogerashton May 2018 #4

Very interesting... Zoonart May 2018 #5

No. It means that Christ showed that a sin and sins can be be redeemed by accepting the grace..... marble falls May 2018 #6

If I remember from Catholic School, we all inherited original sin from Adam and Eve and therefore wasupaloopa May 2018 #7

If I commit one of the sins but don't believe it is a sin, do I still get fried? 3Hotdogs May 2018 #9

Probably not but you might grow hair on yor knuckles or go blind. wasupaloopa May 2018 #11

My dad caught me playing with myself. He told me I would go blind. 3Hotdogs May 2018 #21

And there, in a nutshell, is the reason so many insist on denying evolutionary theory Pope George Ringo II May 2018 #14

When I read Genesis now it is plain that it is mythology but there is a meaning. wasupaloopa May 2018 #24

Patty Smith -- "Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine." 3Hotdogs May 2018 #8

Making "flawed" people was God's second failure Mariana May 2018 #39

Possibly both second AND third. Pope George Ringo II May 2018 #40

Not to mention he fucked the first volume up so badly it needed a 2.0 Major Nikon May 2018 #44

It's worse than that. Once you include the Utah crowd, it's the Desert Quadrilogy. Pope George Ringo II May 2018 #46

Sin is a "christian" concept... NeoGreen May 2018 #10

i could never get an answer for 'why'... samnsara May 2018 #12

It means early Christians needed to explain how their omnipotent messiah got himself killed. Act_of_Reparation May 2018 #13

It may also be a convenient distraction from his other crimes Major Nikon May 2018 #22

I think Doug Stanhope answered this best. Pope George Ringo II May 2018 #15

Dungeons & Dragons Cartoonist May 2018 #16

I always felt the game model was more "Call of Cthulhu" Pope George Ringo II May 2018 #17

The Elohim NeoGreen May 2018 #18

Jeebus saves... NeoGreen May 2018 #19

That's a huge can of worms Lordquinton May 2018 #23

The way I understand it, I can buy a weapon of war at my local Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #26

They make a big deal out of it working for Constantine. Pope George Ringo II May 2018 #29

It gets even better Major Nikon May 2018 #45

If I recall correctly ExciteBike66 May 2018 #27

Jesus died for your sins. We are all sinners. There is good and bad in all applegrove May 2018 #28

I am not a "sinner"... NeoGreen May 2018 #30

Talk of sin is what happens when you let the engrams build up. Pope George Ringo II May 2018 #32

You know that part of marketing where you invent a need the customer didn't know he had? Pope George Ringo II May 2018 #31

The analogy I've heard is... NeoGreen May 2018 #33

When people think they are all virtuos they project their bad onto applegrove May 2018 #34

That "sin" nonsense predates the magic zombie by a long time. Pope George Ringo II May 2018 #35

Isn't jesus the ultimate... NeoGreen May 2018 #37

Yes. That is why he did it. So people would live in harmony. And accept that there applegrove May 2018 #38

So, scapegoating... NeoGreen May 2018 #41

Jesus wanted people to live in harmony? Mariana May 2018 #42