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rug

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Sun May 27, 2012, 08:51 PM May 2012

Should Hate Speech Be Outlawed? [View all]

The Harm in Hate Speech
by Jeremy Waldron
Harvard University Press, 292 pp., $26.95



A Ku Klux Klan rally in Hico, Texas, 1990 (Carl De Keyzer/Magnum Photos)

June 7, 2012
John Paul Stevens

In The Harm in Hate Speech, Jeremy Waldron discusses a loosely defined category of expression that he addressed in a review of Anthony Lewis’s book Freedom for the Thought That We Hate in The New York Review in 2008, and in the Oliver Wendell Holmes Lectures at Harvard University in 2009. Although his references to Justice Holmes in this book are not exactly flattering—Waldron writes that “at one time or another [Holmes] took both sides on most free speech issues,” and that Holmes’s judgment “that criticizing the military was comparable to shouting ‘Fire!’ in a crowded theater” is “preposterous”—in her introduction of Waldron at the Holmes Lectures, Harvard Law School Dean Martha Minow praised Waldron as “one of the two or three greatest legal philosophers of our time.” That high praise also applies to one of Waldron’s former teachers, Ronald Dworkin, who has criticized Waldron’s writing about hate speech.

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After noting the variation in the scope of hate speech regulations in other countries, the book’s first chapter, “Approaching Hate Speech,” describes only in broad strokes the kind of speech about which Waldron is concerned:

The use of words which are deliberately abusive and/or insulting and/or threatening and/or demeaning directed at members of vulnerable minorities, calculated to stir up hatred against them.

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Thus, instead of stating a general proposition that he either supports or opposes, Waldron begins by providing the reader with the facts of what may well have been an actual incident in New Jersey. A Muslim man, walking with his two children, turns a corner on a public street and is unexpectedly confronted with a sign saying: “Muslims and 9/11! Don’t serve them, don’t speak to them, and don’t let them in.” The father is not sure how to respond to his children’s questions about that message, or other signs expressing hostility to Muslims. Waldron describes those signs

loosely as “hate speech,” putting them in the same category as racist graffiti, burning crosses, and earlier generations of signage that sought to drive Jews out of fashionable areas in Florida with postings like “Jews and Dogs Prohibited.”

That example of anti-Muslim speech is important for two reasons. First, it has nothing to do with violence. The speaker has not threatened anyone, and there is no suggestion that the message will provoke a violent response by any of its targets or violent attacks against Muslims by those who sympathize with the views of the speaker. Thus, most of our Supreme Court opinions concerning the First Amendment protection for speech that may lead to violence are simply inapplicable to Waldron’s thesis that government should regulate speech of this kind. Second, the principal reason why Waldron believes such regulation would be desirable is not just to protect the targets of hate speech from offense. Rather it is to protect the inclusive character of a society that should respect the dignity of all of its members.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/jun/07/should-hate-speech-be-outlawed/?page=1

Long, worthwhile book review by the retired Supreme Court Justice.

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Like it or not We do have probably the greatest gift we could ever have "Freedom of Speech" lookingfortruth May 2012 #1
I do not agree that freedom of speech allows anyone the right Tumbulu May 2012 #6
"if you're not a christian you are going to hell when you die" - does that qualify? nt msongs May 2012 #2
It's pretty close if it's not already there. rug May 2012 #3
The Klan, originally rabidly ant-Catholic, sinc 1974 accepts Catholic members. dimbear May 2012 #4
That's interesting. Some bigots can make that distinction. rug May 2012 #5
Yes, it should be outlawed Tumbulu May 2012 #7
It certainly should be challenged. backscatter712 May 2012 #8
Plain and simple Omniscientone May 2012 #9
Oh hell no. westerebus May 2012 #10
No. BiggJawn May 2012 #11
No. Not now, not ever. Hate speech is free speech. cleanhippie May 2012 #12
Do you think that we the public are obligated to grant use Tumbulu May 2012 #14
If hate speech is outlawed, then we might finally see members of the Catholic hierarchy go to jail. laconicsax May 2012 #13
They wouldn't be alone. rug May 2012 #15
No, they'd have lots of company. laconicsax May 2012 #18
If hate speech is outlawed the cells will be filled with bigots of all stripes. rug May 2012 #19
Indeed. n/t laconicsax May 2012 #20
No n/t Marrah_G May 2012 #16
I think the larger question is, can democracy work? Jim__ May 2012 #17
Good post. rug May 2012 #21
Democracy is a terrible system of governance.. Fumesucker May 2012 #22
Excellent question! Can democracy work and does democracy work? Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #29
Yes (but I can see why it isn't in the US) Nihil May 2012 #23
Uh, no it doesn't skepticscott May 2012 #24
Uh, yes it does - it's all a matter of perspective. Nihil Jun 2012 #25
Your comment was uneducated snark skepticscott Jun 2012 #26
The context was "speech" - specifically "hate speech" as referenced in the OP. Nihil Jun 2012 #27
Nicely done. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #30
Who decides what hate speech is? -nt Bradical79 Jun 2012 #28
Here's an excellent piece from the Guardian on a UK perspective. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #31
That is a good analysis. Thanks for posting it. rug Jun 2012 #32
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