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32. That is a good analysis. Thanks for posting it.

Reply to Starboard Tack (Reply #31)

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 05:00 PM

Jun 2012

In the U.S. almost all hate crime laws are measured against the First Amendment. I'm not sure but I think the UK standard is unwritten and based in common law. And then it must be measured against the EU human rights legislation. Despite the unclarity in US speech jurisprudence, it seems to me the European model has a lot more obstacles to a clear standard.

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Should Hate Speech Be Outlawed? [View all] rug May 2012 OP

Like it or not We do have probably the greatest gift we could ever have "Freedom of Speech" lookingfortruth May 2012 #1

I do not agree that freedom of speech allows anyone the right Tumbulu May 2012 #6

"if you're not a christian you are going to hell when you die" - does that qualify? nt msongs May 2012 #2

It's pretty close if it's not already there. rug May 2012 #3

The Klan, originally rabidly ant-Catholic, sinc 1974 accepts Catholic members. dimbear May 2012 #4

That's interesting. Some bigots can make that distinction. rug May 2012 #5

Yes, it should be outlawed Tumbulu May 2012 #7

It certainly should be challenged. backscatter712 May 2012 #8

Plain and simple Omniscientone May 2012 #9

Oh hell no. westerebus May 2012 #10

No. BiggJawn May 2012 #11

No. Not now, not ever. Hate speech is free speech. cleanhippie May 2012 #12

Do you think that we the public are obligated to grant use Tumbulu May 2012 #14

If hate speech is outlawed, then we might finally see members of the Catholic hierarchy go to jail. laconicsax May 2012 #13

They wouldn't be alone. rug May 2012 #15

No, they'd have lots of company. laconicsax May 2012 #18

If hate speech is outlawed the cells will be filled with bigots of all stripes. rug May 2012 #19

Indeed. n/t laconicsax May 2012 #20

No n/t Marrah_G May 2012 #16

I think the larger question is, can democracy work? Jim__ May 2012 #17

Good post. rug May 2012 #21

Democracy is a terrible system of governance.. Fumesucker May 2012 #22

Excellent question! Can democracy work and does democracy work? Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #29

Yes (but I can see why it isn't in the US) Nihil May 2012 #23

Uh, no it doesn't skepticscott May 2012 #24

Uh, yes it does - it's all a matter of perspective. Nihil Jun 2012 #25

Your comment was uneducated snark skepticscott Jun 2012 #26

The context was "speech" - specifically "hate speech" as referenced in the OP. Nihil Jun 2012 #27

Nicely done. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #30

Who decides what hate speech is? -nt Bradical79 Jun 2012 #28

Here's an excellent piece from the Guardian on a UK perspective. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #31

That is a good analysis. Thanks for posting it. rug Jun 2012 #32