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MarkCharles

(2,261 posts)
44. Yup, facts about me and the Chinese are about as well known to you
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 10:00 PM
Dec 2011

as your knowledge of "organized" atheism among all other animal species on the planet.

The assertion almost all Chinese are atheists like me, that brings me a big chuckle, knowing you don't speak any variety of the Chinese languages, most of which have several words for their gods.

Christianity, Taoism, Buddhism, Hindu, Confucianism, all of these exist and are followed by the millions in China today.

I'm really hopeful we can somehow UN-HOOK you from a marriage to your fear fantasies that somehow, if Christianity is not encouraged, religion is dead in China, and this is because some people who simply do not believe are responsible for all of this loss of small Christian communities here and there in a nation of over a billion people. I'm sure you have never traveled widely there, to see their temples, maintained and visited daily, nor their cultural moments of spirituality exercised daily, by so many millions.

"Religion in China has been characterized by pluralism since the beginning of Chinese history. The Chinese religions are family-oriented and do not demand the exclusive adherence of members. Some scholars doubt the use of the term "religion" in reference to Buddhism and Taoism, and suggest "cultural practices" or "thought systems" as more appropriate names."

Probably more percentages of people in China call themselves religious and/or spiritual than those in America.
Somehow you have decided not to study Chinese culture, and to make up stuff you want to believe about a horrible government and what it has done to religious and spiritual beliefs in China, obviously you have never studied nor traveled widely in China, nor have you studied the last 4000-5000 year of history of that nation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China

If there is no god, everyone is godless Angry Dragon Dec 2011 #1
I'm sure it puts many on the religious right on the.. MarkCharles Dec 2011 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author humblebum Dec 2011 #4
How about if you give it a rest? Goblinmonger Dec 2011 #9
No, no, no, no, no! We should not encourage people to hide their christian values. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #10
I keep forgetting that part of that "new attitude" is that atheism should humblebum Dec 2011 #12
Same shitty attitude from you. Got it. Goblinmonger Dec 2011 #13
As usual, your statements are misleading. Nowhere have I said humblebum Dec 2011 #30
Still a broadbrush. Goblinmonger Dec 2011 #31
Call it whatever you will. I have commended atheists and atheist groups who engage in tolerance, but humblebum Dec 2011 #36
I agree GodlessHeathen Feb 2012 #55
The person you responded to has been blocked from this group. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #61
I just Joined GodlessHeathen Feb 2012 #54
Thank you for serving to both you and your brother. humblebum Feb 2012 #66
I am getting sick of this broadbrushing of all outspoken atheism as 'organized atheism' LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #17
Some of us are getting sick of the religious and Christianity-bashing too. And, I realize that not humblebum Dec 2011 #37
Let there be peace on Earth, and let it begin with me cbayer Dec 2011 #38
I understand your point of view EvolveOrConvolve Dec 2011 #39
You specify "modern organized atheism." Usually, the response is that humblebum Dec 2011 #42
I didn't say that modern organized atheism doesn't exist EvolveOrConvolve Dec 2011 #49
First of all, I never said that you claimed that "modern organized atheism doesn't exist." humblebum Dec 2011 #50
Actions of One GodlessHeathen Feb 2012 #57
I don't bash religion or Christianity AT ALL LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #40
I must say that I do respect your gentle nature, and it does come through in your posts often. humblebum Dec 2011 #45
Thank you. But I have had far far less exposure to religious-right attitudes than the Americans on LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #51
Well said, sir. cbayer Dec 2011 #52
I don't consider atheists to be "stupid or wrong or deluded" nor "some sort of evil conspiracy." humblebum Dec 2011 #53
NAP GodlessHeathen Feb 2012 #58
When you advocate the open use of ridicule for particular beliefs as humblebum Feb 2012 #63
"members of these groups produce and push anti-religious movies, books, television" MarkCharles Dec 2011 #41
You are right, indeed. "How horrible that people should simply exercise free speech." humblebum Dec 2011 #43
Yup, facts about me and the Chinese are about as well known to you MarkCharles Dec 2011 #44
Where did I assert that, "almost all Chinese are atheists like..." you? humblebum Dec 2011 #46
Actually GodlessHeathen Feb 2012 #59
IOW you have no facts to backup your claims. nt humblebum Feb 2012 #62
"You implied that it was a numbers issue and used china as a reference... humblebum Feb 2012 #64
Untrue GodlessHeathen Feb 2012 #56
Who ever said that atheists couldn't organize, although it is commonly humblebum Feb 2012 #65
This is the kind of subthread that makes this group unpleasant. cbayer Dec 2011 #11
I refuse to see that I add to the problem at all. Goblinmonger Dec 2011 #14
All three of you are engaging in blatant personal attacks, IMO. cbayer Dec 2011 #16
Clearly you realize the history here Goblinmonger Dec 2011 #18
I am very aware of the history here and continue to hold cbayer Dec 2011 #21
Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #23
Because, from my perspective, it is a very two way street. cbayer Dec 2011 #25
But I have made NO comments of the like Goblinmonger Dec 2011 #28
If this person pushes your buttons, why don't you just ignore them? cbayer Dec 2011 #33
OK, I was hoping that shining some light on this might stop it, but since it hasn't, cbayer Dec 2011 #15
You are about 10 minutes late Goblinmonger Dec 2011 #19
Here's the jury results on what you called a clear personal attack Goblinmonger Dec 2011 #20
The jury also voted to leave laconicsax's post which I alerted. cbayer Dec 2011 #24
Actually, that's good to hear. n/t Goblinmonger Dec 2011 #26
And here are the results on the alert on your post. Some very interesting comments cbayer Dec 2011 #27
I don't have anyone on ignore and won't start now. Goblinmonger Dec 2011 #29
In my first post in this thread, I called out all of you, including humblebum. cbayer Dec 2011 #35
See...promise kept. Goblinmonger Dec 2011 #32
And did it really well, imo. cbayer Dec 2011 #34
I haven't posted in this thread until now. laconicsax Dec 2011 #47
My sincerest apology. I meant cleanhippie. My mistake. cbayer Dec 2011 #48
Perhaps now you can also see the need skepticscott Feb 2012 #60
I disagree that there is much relationship between how 'well' religions are doing, and their LeftishBrit Dec 2011 #22
Best news I've seen for a while. rrneck Dec 2011 #3
Interesting LARED Dec 2011 #5
I think that they are referring to Government when they say "public". cleanhippie Dec 2011 #6
Amazing! A journalist got something wrong about atheism! What a surprise. nt dmallind Dec 2011 #7
Good, deacon_sephiroth Dec 2011 #8
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