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36. I will agree that Jesus was opposed to unnecessary violence. ...

Mon Nov 26, 2012, 12:29 AM

Nov 2012

He was not opposed to the use of a proper level of force for legitimate self defense when absolutely necessary. That's why he suggested carrying a sword to his disciples. Remember that a sword was the handgun of his day and in reality is a far more lethal weapon at close range in skilled hands than the handguns commonly carried by police or civilians today.

Perhaps we can agree to disagree.

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Churches offering concealed-carry weapons training to attract members [View all] spin Nov 2012 OP

I have suspected this for some time. "Fellowship" encompasses whatever you want it to. nt patrice Nov 2012 #1

Jesus was NOT in favor of using weapons. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #2

Nobody ever accused me of being a bible scholar but rrneck Nov 2012 #4

I said using. He never said anything about being armed. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #8

Did he think it would be used for a door stop? rrneck Nov 2012 #13

Jesus was not for using weapons. Read the Holy Gospels! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #17

And I think it's always wrong to kill, every time no matter why. rrneck Nov 2012 #20

I you feel the need to arm I will not challenge that! Be careful my friend! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #23

I dont carry a gun. rrneck Nov 2012 #26

When the revolution comes you will protect me! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #28

I appreciate your confidence but rrneck Nov 2012 #32

Bull!!! You are goin to be with me in the revolution hrmjustin Nov 2012 #33

Will there be cookies? nt rrneck Nov 2012 #40

I would say that to kill an attacker in legitimate self defense is justified. ... spin Nov 2012 #31

To my mind legal and right are two different things. rrneck Nov 2012 #39

Like you I have absolutely no desire to ever have to kill another person ... spin Nov 2012 #41

I used to be a helluva salesman. rrneck Nov 2012 #44

IT'S A SWORD! tblue Nov 2012 #51

You apparently. rrneck Nov 2012 #52

But a careful reading of that passage Vietnameravet Nov 2012 #12

That might be debatable. ... spin Nov 2012 #6

Jesus was said nothing about being armed, but he was not for using them. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #10

I will politely suggest that he was not for the misuse of weapons. ... spin Nov 2012 #21

Ah read the gospels! he did not like violence. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #22

When WC Fields was caught reading the bible, safeinOhio Nov 2012 #29

lol my friend! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #35

I will agree that Jesus was opposed to unnecessary violence. ... spin Nov 2012 #36

God bless you Spin!!!! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #37

May God bless you also. (n/t) spin Nov 2012 #42

they pander to fear and ignorance Skittles Nov 2012 #3

Is the legitimate use of a weapon to defend yourself, your family or another innocent individual ... spin Nov 2012 #14

omg Skittles Nov 2012 #18

Thanks. I totally agree. (n/t) spin Nov 2012 #27

Just think how many people they could bring through the doors with BDSM classes! struggle4progress Nov 2012 #5

I wonder if there is any cultural phenomena rrneck Nov 2012 #7

I apologize for dropping the dime on you. (n/t) spin Nov 2012 #15

No worries dawg! I laughed my ass off. rrneck Nov 2012 #19

You make a damn good point. (n/t) spin Nov 2012 #25

Concealed what? Bibles? TheCowsCameHome Nov 2012 #9

Ya you never know when you might need a gun or a hand grenade at church!! Vietnameravet Nov 2012 #11

A legal firearm in church may make sense as it is a defensive weapon. spin Nov 2012 #30

Well you never know.. Vietnameravet Nov 2012 #49

zombies? Phillip McCleod Nov 2012 #58

I find this to be an interesting paraodox. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #16

Some Christians have a negative view of medicine. ... spin Nov 2012 #24

So what is the point then? cleanhippie Nov 2012 #46

The God I believe in can become a handy crutch in times of need. ... spin Nov 2012 #48

If more believers held the same POV as you, the world woul be a much better place. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #53

Thanks for your support. (n/t) spin Nov 2012 #55

But doesn't is say "thou shalt no kill"? Vietnameravet Nov 2012 #50

Unfortunately "Thou shalt not kill" is a mistranslation. ... spin Nov 2012 #54

Oh lord won't ya buy me...... left on green only Nov 2012 #34

Guns and religion. A natural match. Iggo Nov 2012 #38

Clinging to guns and religion. Moses2SandyKoufax Nov 2012 #43

Off topic. Iggo Nov 2012 #47

Luke 22:49-51 rug Nov 2012 #45

For postgraduate credit, see the movie "Five Card Stud" and pay special attention to dimbear Nov 2012 #56

And the one in Texas is justifying this using racism. cbayer Nov 2012 #57

just giving people one more reason not to go to church Phillip McCleod Nov 2012 #59

Their website is a trip struggle4progress Nov 2012 #60

From the Remnant Sons website: struggle4progress Nov 2012 #61

Oh boy. That is some scary stuff. cbayer Nov 2012 #62

If they aren't raptured, they'll be able to treat The Rapture like a big fun skeet shoot! struggle4progress Nov 2012 #63