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Lordquinton

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91. This is the complex question

Tue May 7, 2013, 09:15 PM

May 2013

Do you agree “abortion is much more serious than rape of children by priests.”

That is a very simple question that can, in fact be answered with a yes and/or no. I would not report anyone for answering it, just as I hope none would report me for asking it. This isn't some clever gotcha question, this is a very serious, and important question, and none here have come out and said one way or another.

Break the mold, be the first to commit yourself to your belief!

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Fabio Martinez Castilla: Abortion is Worse Than Child Rape, Says Mexican Archbishop [View all] cleanhippie May 2013 OP

Er, because priests don't perform abortions but they do rape children? stopbush May 2013 #1

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Is abortion OK if you are a child who was raped by a Catholic Priest??? Walk away May 2013 #2

It doesn't matter, that the percentage of perpetrators isn't unusually high. DetlefK May 2013 #3

It's not the pope or the bishops that are the problem now, it's the laity. cleanhippie May 2013 #4

Exactly. backscatter712 May 2013 #5

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perhaps that's not the intent of the laity.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #93

That's actually an interesting problem, philosophically. DetlefK May 2013 #7

"...why religion at all?" Exactly. It is an outdated and obsolete framework for a lesser developed cleanhippie May 2013 #8

Woah, back up Lordquinton May 2013 #24

Cue "but Dawkins said" comments Goblinmonger May 2013 #6

This is why people are leaving your filthy church. Dawson Leery May 2013 #9

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The numbers are out there, easy to find Lordquinton May 2013 #83

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I have nothing to apolagize for Lordquinton May 2013 #85

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"Frankly, I haven't thoroughly studied the first post " Lordquinton May 2013 #88

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This is the complex question Lordquinton May 2013 #91

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except that *not* all catholics agree with the hierarchy on this.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #95

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fuck the bishop. i'm asking *you*. \n Phillip McCleod May 2013 #99

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how would i know? did you see my post count? \n Phillip McCleod May 2013 #108

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in other words, you're a pro-lifer. just say it. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #111

He's baaaaaaaack. trotsky May 2013 #114

It will be taken care of. hrmjustin May 2013 #115

hm. can't say i'd ever been in that group until now. seems like.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #117

He is gone! hrmjustin May 2013 #118

Chances are that it won't work out Meshuga May 2013 #116

You take your chances. hrmjustin May 2013 #109

So agreement? Lordquinton May 2013 #96

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The bishop sees it the same way as... Meshuga May 2013 #100

He thinks you made this comment below. hrmjustin May 2013 #104

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The poster you are addressing did not make that comment. hrmjustin May 2013 #102

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Mistakes happen. just make a simple correction and than address the guy you wanted to. hrmjustin May 2013 #106

From the link in your link: rug May 2013 #10

“abortion is much more serious than rape of children by priests.” cleanhippie May 2013 #11

"priests found molesting children should not be forgiven, but instead imprisoned and banned" rug May 2013 #12

“abortion is much more serious than rape of children by priests.” cleanhippie May 2013 #13

I guess you do not in fact mind being seen as a cherry picker. rug May 2013 #14

I couldn't care less about your opinion on the subject, being a cherry picker yourself. cleanhippie May 2013 #15

As a matter of fact I don't but I do demand accuracy in news. rug May 2013 #16

Maybe you should look for accuracy in your beliefs first. cleanhippie May 2013 #27

It's much more challenging to find them in your posts. rug May 2013 #28

You really CAN convince yourself to believe anything. cleanhippie May 2013 #31

Simple dry clinical observation. rug May 2013 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie May 2013 #39

Nice edits. I encourage all to read them. rug May 2013 #42

Merely a reflection of yourself. cleanhippie May 2013 #48

So, let's put this all together Lordquinton May 2013 #33

That's an excellent question. rug May 2013 #34

But if it's a worse crime than child rape Lordquinton May 2013 #35

Only if you think he's correct. rug May 2013 #36

I don't think he's correct Lordquinton May 2013 #37

Would you like my labels for you? rug May 2013 #38

I just want one thing Lordquinton May 2013 #51

You won't get a direct answer. It's what he does. cleanhippie May 2013 #54

I can try Lordquinton May 2013 #65

I applaud your perserverence, but eventually you will need this. cleanhippie May 2013 #69

It's something to do Lordquinton May 2013 #73

I wish you better luck and results than most others have gotten. cleanhippie May 2013 #76

He stopped responding to me Lordquinton May 2013 #82

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Were that the case, he could end it with a simple "Yes" or "No" Lordquinton May 2013 #89

I see you're still flying around the pile. So here's your answer. rug May 2013 #113

Almost a straight answer, Thank you Lordquinton May 2013 #119

The clarification was not in quotes Lordquinton May 2013 #17

It didn't have an ellipsis either. rug May 2013 #19

Nice job trying to muddy the waters Lordquinton May 2013 #22

You're right, words matter. All of them. rug May 2013 #23

Like your thoughts on that statement Lordquinton May 2013 #25

Sure I can. rug May 2013 #26

But you won't prove it Lordquinton May 2013 #30

Ruggie would twist himself into a pretzel before he would give a straight answer skepticscott May 2013 #41

It's amusing to see you make your predictable personal attacks without making them directly. rug May 2013 #43

Why would I waste my time skepticscott May 2013 #46

I didn't see a question just another pedictable personal attack. rug May 2013 #47

It's even more amusing to see you accuse others of personal attacks while flinging personal attacks. cleanhippie May 2013 #56

Well given your (unedited) remarks about my dry wife, I find that incredibly hypocritical. rug May 2013 #57

Your wife is dry? cleanhippie May 2013 #59

Go on, explain yourself. rug May 2013 #60

You explain it, your the expert on dry and clinical. cleanhippie May 2013 #61

No you explain your own sexist bullshit. rug May 2013 #62

bwahahahaha! cleanhippie May 2013 #64

I suppose that's the best you can do when confronted with your own sexist bullshit. rug May 2013 #66

Bwahahahahaha! It's more than your bullshit deserves. cleanhippie May 2013 #67

Do you think anyone takes you seriously, apart from your yellow round smiley? rug May 2013 #68

Do you think anyone takes you seriously? At all? cleanhippie May 2013 #70

Oh say anything at all about the RCC. I was speaking entirely about you. rug May 2013 #71

I was talking about you, too. cleanhippie May 2013 #72

Just keep poting exactly what you're posting. rug May 2013 #74

You keep posting exactly what you do, too! cleanhippie May 2013 #75

You really don't get it. rug May 2013 #77

Sorry, did you say something? cleanhippie May 2013 #78

Why, I thought you could figure it out by eliminating words. rug May 2013 #44

If I were to put it together from everything you said, and refuse to say Lordquinton May 2013 #53

Well done. You painted him into a corner and you got the usual in return. cleanhippie May 2013 #29

Lol. rug May 2013 #45

Corner. Painted in. You. cleanhippie May 2013 #49

Yes, the combined intellectual firepower is too much to bear. rug May 2013 #55

Humblebum had more intellectual firepower than you. cleanhippie May 2013 #58

So if I said edhopper May 2013 #18

Are you comparing jaywalking to abortion? rug May 2013 #20

I am certainly not going to compare abortion to edhopper May 2013 #21

Most of the horrific shit done by the RCC gets a pass from him. That's apologetics. cleanhippie May 2013 #50

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even if one bothered to extend the bishop that courtesy.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #101

Settlements in RCC abuse cases now amount to 3 billion dollars, a tidy sum. dimbear May 2013 #40

re:Fabio Martinez Castilla: Abortion is Worse Than Child Rape, Says Mexican Archbishop allan01 May 2013 #52

I assume he has first hand experience? nt HooptieWagon May 2013 #63

really -- ask the children who were DesertFlower May 2013 #105