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17. Papal Infallibility on Religion

Fri May 24, 2013, 05:33 PM

May 2013

So the Pope issued this statement on Atheists. Ok, it was not a synod but it was about a religious doctrine. Then a member of the Vacation comes out and more or less says, no, no, that is not what he means. ONLY Catholics can be saved, let alone Atheists or Non-Christians, or Non-Catholics. ONLY those who believe in the one true church (Catholic) can be saved. Sorry, Lutherans, Methodists, etc., you are doomed.

Ok, now if the POPE is infallible on matters of faith and religion, how can a Bishop in the Vatican come out and contradict the Pope? Didn't the Pope make a statement about FAITH and RELIGION? He was not talking about ECONOMICS of the world, which would not fall under infallibility.

I don't believe ANY of it, plus get on the SAME PAGE Pope and Vacation. You cannot have it both ways.

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No, the Pope Didn't Just Say All Atheists Go to Heaven [View all] rug May 2013 OP

'HAS redeemed.' elleng May 2013 #1

You still have to turn in the stamps if you want the prize. rug May 2013 #3

HA! Trashed all those Green Stamps YEARS ago!!! elleng May 2013 #40

It's a little out of place to be practical in this forum, but you can sell those on eBay. dimbear May 2013 #41

Wow, that was a blast from the past customerserviceguy May 2013 #51

I redeem all of you. there, now you can go to the heaven of your choice or none at all and I do NOT msongs May 2013 #2

But do you validate parking? Arugula Latte May 2013 #26

Duh! If there ain't no god there ain't no heaven so upaloopa May 2013 #4

Geez, nobody's making you. rug May 2013 #5

Then the problem with Jews HockeyMom May 2013 #6

What exactly was your grade in Catechism? rug May 2013 #8

Elementary or HS? HockeyMom May 2013 #13

What do you remember of baptism of desire? rug May 2013 #14

I went to St. Michael's Academy HockeyMom May 2013 #24

That's another thing they teach about something upaloopa May 2013 #11

"heaven is a construct of believers i think" demwing May 2013 #47

better answer.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #55

The first time I ever heard of Catholics, I was told I was going to hell LiberalEsto May 2013 #7

Look around. The dialogue hasn't changed much. rug May 2013 #9

That's very true LiberalEsto May 2013 #10

And the pope is still a poop. Arugula Latte May 2013 #27

When I went to Catholic School they taught that God loved everyone and did not mention hell much. hrmjustin May 2013 #12

He loves everyone, but, well, sometimes he's got to do some smiting and some slaughtering. Arugula Latte May 2013 #28

I don't believe he does that. hrmjustin May 2013 #29

Well, you're not alone. "He" only seems to get credit for stuff, never blame. Arugula Latte May 2013 #32

I pray to God for strength not for things to happen. I don't believe that God decides what happens hrmjustin May 2013 #33

That all depends on how much control the elites need to exert on the peons. backscatter712 May 2013 #39

Why are atheists such a threat to religious folks? Ted Brown May 2013 #15

What threat? rug May 2013 #16

Threat enough for the leader of the most Christian of faiths to bother to Ted Brown May 2013 #18

Lol! You think his answer to a question was made under a threat? rug May 2013 #19

7 billion people alive today 20% about 1.4 billion Ted Brown May 2013 #22

Yes, Christians are a small desperate minority. rug May 2013 #23

Not worried as long as sane Christians are in charge, Ted Brown May 2013 #25

The pope should become an agnostic is a weird thing to say. hrmjustin May 2013 #45

I say atheists are more often seen as an annoyance than as a threat demwing May 2013 #48

Papal Infallibility on Religion HockeyMom May 2013 #17

You're free to believe none of it but you should know what you're talking about. rug May 2013 #21

"Off the cuff remark"? A-Long-Little-Doggie May 2013 #36

Ex tempore may be more precise. rug May 2013 #37

The Pope wasn't speaking in ex cathedra, and is not infallible all the time... Humanist_Activist May 2013 #30

Then I am condemned. HockeyMom May 2013 #34

It's always backward day! defacto7 May 2013 #53

This is just a demonstration of the evil that is your church and your god. Humanist_Activist May 2013 #20

Lol tell us how you really feel my friend! hrmjustin May 2013 #42

Just to be clear, we still need all your money! Ted Brown May 2013 #31

In his book Politicalboi May 2013 #35

somewhere jesus is sitting around and thinking... madrchsod May 2013 #38

Actually, I'm an atheist. Gore1FL May 2013 #43

"Redeemed" seems to be used by the Pope as "removed the taint of original sin" muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #44

I think that's essentially a correct statement. rug May 2013 #46

"Original sin" skepticscott May 2013 #49

What's your excuse then? rug May 2013 #50

If I need one skepticscott May 2013 #54

Figures LostOne4Ever May 2013 #52