Do you feel the presence of God ever?

[cbayer]

58. Well, of course you discarded personal experience in the face

of there being a more objective way of gathering and analyzing data.

The thing is, there is no more objective way in doing this when it comes to belief in a god or gods.

Occam's razor definitely explains how many non-believers got to their personal perspective on this issue. But for many believers, it may also be the way they got to their beliefs. If one can not fathom or explain things which may be infinite, the concept of a god may be the answer that makes the fewest assumptions.

You can not assert with certainty that the presence of god does not exist. That is the hole in your argument, imo.

I don't see it as a slippery slope to start with the premise that someone's experience is truly their experience. They may be having a perception that can be explained neurologically or psychiatrically. But then again, they may not. To start from the premise that it is real to them seems to me to be the right thing to do. If I have evidence to the contrary and the person continues to hold on to their perception as true, we are treading into the area of a delusion.

But if I have no evidence to the contrary and their belief is neither harming them or anyone else, then what business is it of mine to try to convince them that they are wrong?