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trotsky

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14. Those aren't Christian values, they are human values.

Sat Sep 21, 2013, 09:44 AM

Sep 2013

All of them predate Christianity. All of them have been developed independently of Christianity.

Some Christians have adopted those values, but they are in no way "Christian values."

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There are Christians and then there are Christians. [View all] Starboard Tack Sep 2013 OP

There are Christians and people who completely missed the point Warpy Sep 2013 #1

I don't think they've stolen the label at all. trotsky Sep 2013 #2

CHINOS notadmblnd Sep 2013 #4

The irony is skepticscott Sep 2013 #3

The irony is some have Xian values and some are fascists Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #5

Can you declare, with any authority whatsoever... trotsky Sep 2013 #6

What, are you a Christian after all? rug Sep 2013 #7

Apparently skepticscott Sep 2013 #9

The irony is skepticscott Sep 2013 #8

Nobody needs god Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #12

Maybe if people like you stopped claiming values as "Xstian" skepticscott Sep 2013 #13

Ah, so Xians are not allowed share positive values with us. I see. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #17

You'll note that neither scott nor I have called them "atheist values." trotsky Sep 2013 #18

Yes I agree Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #23

One of the things that you seem to take for granted... trotsky Sep 2013 #34

Not at all. The bible is an anthology of stories. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #35

What you said was: trotsky Sep 2013 #36

No more of a "fact" than Superman came from Krypton. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #37

Just wanted clarification. trotsky Sep 2013 #38

Hmmm..let's see now skepticscott Sep 2013 #20

"Some of us embrace Xian values..." What. The. Fuck are Christian values? Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #10

Tolerance, loving thy neighbor as thyself, do unto others, caring for the lessfortunate. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #11

Those aren't Christian values, they are human values. trotsky Sep 2013 #14

Why do you feel the need to claim those values as "Xstian"? skepticscott Sep 2013 #15

Honestly, hearing these things portrayed as "Christian values" to me sounds exactly like... trotsky Sep 2013 #16

They are values that some of us share. I never said they were unique. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #19

Thank you for backing down and admitting they aren't "Christian" values. trotsky Sep 2013 #21

It's heartwarming skepticscott Sep 2013 #22

You're welcome. They are not exclusively "Christian" values Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #25

I don't claim that they are exclusively Xian values. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #24

Nice dodge skepticscott Sep 2013 #26

No dodge at all Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #29

What makes any of those exclusively Christian? n/t Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #27

Absolutely nothing Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #30

Ahh, you are a cherry picker of Jesus, a Jesus fan, as it were... Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #31

A cherry picker, indeed I am, if that means discriminating between the good and the rotten fruit. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #32

Talking of cherry picking. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #33

You know Jesus was sent to only save the Israelites, right? Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #39

Well, I guess we could cherry pick all day long to prove a point. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #41

So basically you are arguing that Christian values don't really exist... Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #43

I seriously doubt your examples are considered values by anyone Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #44

The term "Christian values" is exclusive by its very nature. n/t Humanist_Activist Sep 2013 #45

Not to me it isn't. Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #46

I like to tell Rapture Republicans that ... JEFF9K Sep 2013 #28

From one Apostate to all the newly declared ones LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #40

Rock on! Starboard Tack Sep 2013 #42