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Bill USA

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Thu May 21, 2015, 06:21 PM May 2015

Black Hole found, 12 Billion x Solar Mass. Thats a "B". Black hole at center of MW is ~4 Million SM. [View all]

http://www.space.com/28664-monster-black-hole-largest-brightest-ever.html
(all emphases my own)

Astronomers have discovered the largest and most luminous black hole ever seen — an ancient monster with a mass about 12 billion times that of the sun — that dates back to when the universe was less than 1 billion years old.

It remains a mystery how black holes could have grown so huge in such a relatively brief time after the dawn of the universe, researchers say.


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So far, astronomers have discovered 40 quasars — each with a black hole about 1 billion times the mass of the sun — dating back to when the universe was less than 1 billion years old. Now, scientists report the discovery of a supermassive black hole 12 billion times the mass of the sun about 12.8 billion light-years from Earth that dates back to when the universe was only about 875 million years old.

This black hole — technically known as SDSS J010013.02+280225.8, or J0100+2802 for short — is not only the most massive quasar ever seen in the early universe but also the most luminous. It is about 429 trillion times brighter than the sun and seven times brighter than the most distant quasar known.
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Maybe the universe is older than they think? nt BootinUp May 2015 #1
No, they pretty much have that nailed down. longship May 2015 #2
ok, thank you for that info. BootinUp May 2015 #3
What was there before the universe? darkangel218 May 2015 #4
Space/Time began 14 billion years ago. There was no "Before" there was no "There" Vincardog May 2015 #5
Well, that doesnt make sense. darkangel218 May 2015 #6
The limit is with your thinking. You do know space/time is part and parcel of the same thing right? Vincardog May 2015 #7
Not necesseraly. darkangel218 May 2015 #9
Vincardog is correct, the limit is with your thinking. Thor_MN May 2015 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 May 2015 #18
Correct, it doesn't make sense. cpwm17 May 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2015 #13
Quantum mechanics is an already existing physics which exists in some realm. cpwm17 May 2015 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2015 #15
" It's impossible to come from complete nothingness. " Thor_MN May 2015 #17
Tsk tsk.. not nice to talk to other DUers like that. darkangel218 May 2015 #19
Not nice to correct flawed understanding of science in the science group? Thor_MN May 2015 #20
I believe in science cpwm17 May 2015 #23
Yet that is what you claimed. Thor_MN May 2015 #25
Absence of evidence of how our Universe came to be cpwm17 May 2015 #22
Absence of evidence is absence of evidence. Thor_MN May 2015 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2015 #12
The universe in 'not empty space expanding in empty space' Jeroen May 2015 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2015 #27
It is about 429 trillion times brighter than the sun ... GeorgeGist May 2015 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2015 #11
Yay science! Fairgo May 2015 #21
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