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Irish_Dem

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28. Way too many coincidences. All paths lead back to the Wuhan Lab.
Wed Oct 13, 2021, 10:38 AM
Oct 2021

And yes, the Gain of Function research is dangerous and outrageous.

I was trained as a PhD researcher. Research is like detective work; we follow the data. Data tells you the truth, data tells you the story.

Wuhan Lab had the Covid virus and was doing gain of function research, which is engineering the virus to make it more transmissible to humans. This research was in part funded by the US. This research is very high risk, but ostensibly conducted with a goal towards developing effective treatments for virus infection.

Wuhan Lab was known to use sloppy lab practices.

And after the outbreak all evidence was scrubbed and hidden by the Chinese government. A cover up suggests culpability.

No data to support the natural origin theory, that the virus jumped from bats to humans.

So far the data points to the Wuhan Lab. Either the engineered virus infected an employee of the lab, or the lab techs were secretly selling infected animals to the Wuhan live animal market.

The Wuhan Lab and Wet market were essentially crimes scenes, and the Chinese government carefully eradicated all evidence and silenced witnesses. So we may never be able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt exactly what happened.

But based upon the facts we do have, the data is pointing to the Wuhan Lab. I don't believe it was deliberate, data pointing to an accident.

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WSJ Still Peddling The RightWing Propaganda WHITT Oct 2021 #1
Covid originated in the same city where the Wuhan Institute of Virology is Tomconroy Oct 2021 #2
Another coincidence, the lab had been studying the coronavirus for years. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #9
Nope WHITT Oct 2021 #11
Link? Tomconroy Oct 2021 #13
Wrong Cite WHITT Oct 2021 #14
You need to read the whole article. Your claim does have Tomconroy Oct 2021 #17
YOU Need To Read The Whole Article WHITT Oct 2021 #20
You won't believe this one either: Tomconroy Oct 2021 #22
More Pooh-Poohing WHITT Oct 2021 #25
Beat you to it. Tomconroy Oct 2021 #27
Can't Access It WHITT Oct 2021 #33
Clearly you are going to believe what you believe Tomconroy Oct 2021 #36
WRONG WHITT Oct 2021 #40
Ahh! Secret Covid! Why didn't I think of that! Tomconroy Oct 2021 #44
Eh WHITT Oct 2021 #45
This is a LTE Dr. Shepper Oct 2021 #3
Precisely. SergeStorms Oct 2021 #8
The biggest problem in determining the source is that Chinese officials have erased the record and Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #4
In criminal law we call these actions 'conciousness of guilt'. Tomconroy Oct 2021 #7
Tampering with evidence and witnesses points to guilt. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #10
Except There's Nothing To 'Cover Up' WHITT Oct 2021 #12
Here's somebody who thinks they're hiding stuff: Tomconroy Oct 2021 #18
It is clear that something has been hidden. That is not proof of what happened. Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #19
Ah WHITT Oct 2021 #21
Your metaphor is disingenuous. The government of China has a long and documented record of avoiding Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #23
All Of Which WHITT Oct 2021 #24
Evidence? You can present it? or refer to it? Please enlighten us. Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #26
Where Ya Been? WHITT Oct 2021 #35
There is significant doubt attached to the Spanish results suggesting a need for further examination Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #38
Sure WHITT Oct 2021 #41
Is it 3 dimensional chess? Roy Rolling Oct 2021 #5
Trump also reversed the pause that Obama had ordered on this kind of research. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #15
The New Yorker has a good article about this out this week. Tomconroy Oct 2021 #6
I am reading this article now. Jebus God. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #16
Way too many coincidences. All paths lead back to the Wuhan Lab. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #28
Yes. Just too many coincidences. Tomconroy Oct 2021 #31
Possibly the worst source of science news are journalists. NNadir Oct 2021 #29
What did the New Yorker article get wrong? Tomconroy Oct 2021 #30
One can answer this question oneself by being aware... NNadir Oct 2021 #32
Nice fluffy non-answer you've posted. No refence or suggestion of facts or opinion or a class Ford_Prefect Oct 2021 #34
I stand by what I wrote. If it's too "fluffy" for you, you have the option... NNadir Oct 2021 #37
The problem with many scientific papers is that Tomconroy Oct 2021 #39
Well if one does the hard work to understand what some people call... NNadir Oct 2021 #42
You've told us all about 'You' in your contributions to the thread, Tomconroy Oct 2021 #43
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