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jeff47

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15. No, I said nothing about what it accomplishes.
Tue Dec 3, 2013, 05:32 PM
Dec 2013

I never said there was no point. Apparently you think posts on DU are worthless.

That's what I mean about keeping enemies closer.

You're free to use the phrase wrong. But pushing your enemies is not a way to bring them close.

The concept behind the quote is to study your opponents so that 1) They can not double-cross you, and 2) you can double-cross them.

Speaking against them is not keeping them close.

So while you're claiming I'm contradicting myself

Nope, I'm pointing out you are misusing the quote.

while then saying yourself that religion isn't necessary but really it is

Nope, it isn't necessary. But people who listen to the pope - shockingly enough - listen to the pope. Doesn't mean we all have to, nor that they have to on every single subject.

The good for us is using this as a lever to break apart the hegemony that thwarts the social issues you support. If you feel too icky using it for that gain, so be it. But others of us are going to use whatever levers we can find.

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Actually, Francis is a bigot and a homophobe. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #1
He's not quite as bad as the last guy! Hoo-fucking-ray! trotsky Dec 2013 #2
The last Fire Chief DID pour gasoline on everything. FiveGoodMen Dec 2013 #3
Praising the good someone does is not endorsing the entirety of their actions. jeff47 Dec 2013 #4
At the risk of going Godwin... trotsky Dec 2013 #5
Actually, they are. jeff47 Dec 2013 #6
But that's the thing - these aren't the pope's ideas. trotsky Dec 2013 #7
We'll see where it leads, but we should encourage it. jeff47 Dec 2013 #9
What does it mean to encourage it? trotsky Dec 2013 #10
By saying "good job" when someone does a good job jeff47 Dec 2013 #11
And what exactly does an anonymous post of "good job" on a message board do? trotsky Dec 2013 #12
What exactly does an anonymous post of "But look at their social positions!!" do? jeff47 Dec 2013 #13
Well then now that you think there is no point of posting anything on DU, evidently... trotsky Dec 2013 #14
No, I said nothing about what it accomplishes. jeff47 Dec 2013 #15
Love that toon! progressoid Dec 2013 #8
He is many of those things Warpy Dec 2013 #16
Talk is cheap... rexcat Dec 2013 #17
According to a poster in this thread, anyone who questions the pope is a republican: Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #18
Used to be anyone who questioned the pope... uriel1972 Dec 2013 #19
Don't hold your breath. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #20
Exactly. deucemagnet Dec 2013 #24
I'm really tired of the pope posts defacto7 Dec 2013 #21
They desperately want the Pope to be good LostOne4Ever Dec 2013 #22
I believe that members of most religions sense that the end of their ideology is near... AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #23
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