Atheists & Agnostics

LostOne4Ever

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22. They desperately want the Pope to be good

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:30 AM

Dec 2013

And remain intentionally blind to the fact that the Pope's actions do not match his words. They want to think that one of the leaders of their religious beliefs is a good guy standing up for justice and righteousness, rather than just a spin doctor trying to improve the churches image.

Yet, what policies has he changed? What action, beyond meaningless token gestures, has the pope done to change the church for the better? The churches policy on gays, contraception, women, non-believers, etc has changed how?

Regardless, I could not care less about Pope Fransisco. I am no longer a Catholic and he could declare that all atheists are going straight to heaven and not affect me or get me to consider going back. I will still find the theology abhorrent and unbelievable.

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So this Pope isn't a bigoted, heartless, homophobic, child-abuse enabler? So what? [View all] mr blur Dec 2013 OP

Actually, Francis is a bigot and a homophobe. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #1

He's not quite as bad as the last guy! Hoo-fucking-ray! trotsky Dec 2013 #2

The last Fire Chief DID pour gasoline on everything. FiveGoodMen Dec 2013 #3

Praising the good someone does is not endorsing the entirety of their actions. jeff47 Dec 2013 #4

At the risk of going Godwin... trotsky Dec 2013 #5

Actually, they are. jeff47 Dec 2013 #6

But that's the thing - these aren't the pope's ideas. trotsky Dec 2013 #7

We'll see where it leads, but we should encourage it. jeff47 Dec 2013 #9

What does it mean to encourage it? trotsky Dec 2013 #10

By saying "good job" when someone does a good job jeff47 Dec 2013 #11

And what exactly does an anonymous post of "good job" on a message board do? trotsky Dec 2013 #12

What exactly does an anonymous post of "But look at their social positions!!" do? jeff47 Dec 2013 #13

Well then now that you think there is no point of posting anything on DU, evidently... trotsky Dec 2013 #14

No, I said nothing about what it accomplishes. jeff47 Dec 2013 #15

Love that toon! progressoid Dec 2013 #8

He is many of those things Warpy Dec 2013 #16

Talk is cheap... rexcat Dec 2013 #17

According to a poster in this thread, anyone who questions the pope is a republican: Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #18

Used to be anyone who questioned the pope... uriel1972 Dec 2013 #19

Don't hold your breath. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #20

Exactly. deucemagnet Dec 2013 #24

I'm really tired of the pope posts defacto7 Dec 2013 #21

They desperately want the Pope to be good LostOne4Ever Dec 2013 #22

I believe that members of most religions sense that the end of their ideology is near... AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #23