Atheists & Agnostics

SoLeftIAmRight

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Sun Mar 29, 2015, 06:23 PM

Mar 2015

In the fight against the destructive forces of religion there are things that have better chances of making progress than others.

Saying I am an atheist - you are stupid is not going to work.

You may have no interest in that battle - I do.

I like "navel gazing" as one of this group pointed out. Like this is a bad thing...

I have looked at the words of many great people and when they reference religious ideas I feel that I should consider those thought.

Right now I am reading about consciousness - from the neuroscientist point of view. I am deep in the navel gazing mode.

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Is this a place for rational discourse? [View all] SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 OP

rational discourse is not a requirement here :-) Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #1

The word carries baggage that is thousands of years old. SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #4

so far I've got nothing. Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #17

not sure where you are going with this responce SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #19

Einstein died many decades before we discovered several properties of light. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #129

would a flea collar help? edgineered Mar 2015 #2

This responce is not helpful to me. SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #6

relative to events in this group over the past several days edgineered Mar 2015 #8

I do not understand your responce SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #9

coaching, counseling, and proselytizing are a few groups over -> edgineered Mar 2015 #10

Thank you SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #12

Well, are we supposed to...guess? mr blur Mar 2015 #3

I wonder what makes the question of god a valid question. SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #14

It isn't a valid question. God is a salve for a capricious world. jeff47 Mar 2015 #22

I like these ideas SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #27

IMO, the only deterministic thing is the laws of physics won't be violated. jeff47 Mar 2015 #29

Yes - that does seem to be the case SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #31

Then stop hinting at what you want to explore and start talking about it. jeff47 Mar 2015 #33

For you, at this time, my question is SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #34

I was born into an atheist family. jeff47 Mar 2015 #36

I want to stay away from the religion topic SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #44

Discussing atheism while staying away from the religion topic Curmudgeoness Mar 2015 #58

everything SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #60

"I am an atheist - you are stupid" Curmudgeoness Mar 2015 #61

this is what I should have said SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #64

Reading the Bible. Curmudgeoness Mar 2015 #66

Thank you SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #68

Of course there is garbage in your mind. Curmudgeoness Mar 2015 #71

I do - whenever I find some SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #74

The God Delusion edhopper Mar 2015 #70

I just threw that out as an example of wording that might... SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #75

got it edhopper Mar 2015 #80

If you're going to talk about atheism, you're inherently talking about religion. jeff47 Mar 2015 #93

well done SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #102

Gasp!! You mean I'm more likely to sleep when laying down!!?!?!?! jeff47 Mar 2015 #106

Atheist is a beautiful word Cartoonist Mar 2015 #5

I have never heard anyone say that - beautiful word SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #7

Of course you will get "rational discourse", if that's what you want. mr blur Mar 2015 #11

I do not believe that the question is a "real" question SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #15

I have similar trouble bvf Mar 2015 #13

Well lets take a look... SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #18

Okay. bvf Mar 2015 #21

This question seems very far from the topic SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #25

Did you mean "vertices" just then? bvf Mar 2015 #37

Yes - thanks for the correction SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #46

Before I put you on ignore once and for all bvf Mar 2015 #49

What do you have to say about the ideas expressed by these people? SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #52

You've connected the word to a belief system; a doctrine. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #16

The semantics of the word is not as important as the historical baggage to me SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #20

on the front page SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #23

If you're looking for answers to existential questions, LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #24

Ok SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #30

You've changed up the question since you started this conversation. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #32

Very Very Good SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #35

What? LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #38

Troll or navel-gazer. bvf Mar 2015 #39

Cloying. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #40

This was a very unkind responce SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #43

Sucks to be you then, I guess. bvf Mar 2015 #45

IS THIS WHAT IS ALLOWED IN THE GROUP SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #48

Actually all caps is Strictly Prohibited. Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #99

did not know about the caps SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #107

Well Consider This Your Final Warning Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #132

Possibly so. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #50

Before we can answer those questions Rainforestgoddess Mar 2015 #94

to each their own SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #96

Okee dokey Rainforestgoddess Mar 2015 #100

that is a sharp observation SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #105

this one's been in the catnip! edgineered Mar 2015 #54

Nobody is going to jump on you for asking that question. Goblinmonger Mar 2015 #26

Thank you SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #28

" it is the baggage of the great thinkers that I want to see explored."? mr blur Mar 2015 #41

How do you feel about edhopper Mar 2015 #42

I you really want to know... SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #47

The evidence suggest it is likely, or at least very possible. edhopper Mar 2015 #51

You keep suggesting that i am "uneasy" SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #53

I used uneasy instead of uncomfortable edhopper Mar 2015 #63

I do not see them as the same SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #65

Okay edhopper Mar 2015 #67

as an evangelical agnostic SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #69

That is another matter edhopper Mar 2015 #73

YES YES YES SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #76

So it's the approach to the conversation edhopper Mar 2015 #79

That is a lot of words you are trying to putting in my mouth SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #86

I wasn't trying to be flip edhopper Mar 2015 #88

Thank you - that was very clear SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #97

So you are bothered edhopper Mar 2015 #108

You have been brainwashed. Curmudgeoness Mar 2015 #83

Not a helpful responce SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #85

What....The....Hell. Curmudgeoness Mar 2015 #87

I think that I posted to the wrong place SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #90

"evangelical agnostic" - snort - Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #101

I think he'd get along well with the Goblinmonger Mar 2015 #109

Disingenuous much? LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #55

no SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #56

Stop with the baiting. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #57

Be well SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #59

You show yourself as yet another apologist, edgineered Mar 2015 #62

no you have twisted my words SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #72

a cut and paste of what you said is twisting your words? really? SoLIAR edgineered Mar 2015 #77

......... Curmudgeoness Mar 2015 #81

you have debased yourself SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #82

If you want to be considered as anything but skepticscott Mar 2015 #78

Thank you for the advice SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #84

If that is true maybe you should have bumped into some of the other threads in here first. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #92

another hostile remark SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #110

I answered your question in the other thread. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #113

Sorry didn't see this post until now LostOne4Ever Mar 2015 #89

I have reponded to so many on this subject SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #95

Really. That's not offensive. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #98

your responce went over my head SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #104

If you spell that word wrong one more time... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2015 #124

Thanks for the s SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #126

I don't get your poet point--as to the word itself. Goblinmonger Mar 2015 #111

You make your point well SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #114

Well Goblinmonger Mar 2015 #115

Okay edhopper Mar 2015 #112

Nothing - Absolutly nothing SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #116

I don't know what you mean about edhopper Mar 2015 #117

see determinism SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #118

So you can't simply explain what you mean? edhopper Mar 2015 #119

If you do not know this concept SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #120

I am aware of the concept edhopper Mar 2015 #121

tired hungry - bad answer - I am struggling with it now SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #122

Sounds like you have things to think about edhopper Mar 2015 #123

Well there is your issue LostOne4Ever Mar 2015 #125

many thanks SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #127

Of course this is a place for rational discourse EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2015 #91

Are you willing to walk me through the process? SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #103

Sounds like a task for you. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #128

Holy Babble, Batman! mr blur Mar 2015 #130

POW! THWACK! OOF! N/T! bvf Mar 2015 #131

I'm locking this while the hosts discuss things EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2015 #133