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91. No. Chelsea's already torpedoed her own credibility.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jan 2016

Treating her as if she has no agency, as if her ability to reason has been incapacitated by familial obligation, would be misogynistic.

Chelsea is not "someone's daughter". She's an adult, and should be treated like any other campaign surrogate. The last thing the Sanders campaign should do is metaphorically pat her on the head and say, "poor misguided child." All it needs to do, and probably all it will do, is say that her assertions were false.

When folks catch on to crap like that, it often backfires Jarqui Jan 2016 #1
yeah, "she sent her only daughter out to lie for her, to thousands of people" zazen Jan 2016 #2
No longer human, just a machine. I'm not looking for a 'grandmother' anyway. ViseGrip Jan 2016 #6
Robotic abuela? Helen Borg Jan 2016 #29
i can picture that... yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #38
I'd say more like this: d_legendary1 Jan 2016 #49
or more like Mom from Futurama. nt Javaman Jan 2016 #63
I hate you. winter is coming Jan 2016 #108
And it was done so awkwardly. PWPippin Jan 2016 #12
Better at lying, eh. pangaia Jan 2016 #62
Just Goes To Show That The ENTIRE FAMILY Has Some Serious "Personal Character" Issues CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #142
Yeah, I must say this for her - SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #105
Thousands? ybbor Jan 2016 #27
It is "millions, and millions, and millions" on the internet. cui bono Jan 2016 #97
Another misfire from Camp HRC Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #3
I saw clips of her on "Ellen" that CBS showed the other day deutsey Jan 2016 #14
Have you seen her 75 minutes with the Des Moines Register Editorial Board? CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #57
Wow, she really does look tired. Kentonio Jan 2016 #92
Bernie has met with the DSR editorial board CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #96
Thank you! Kentonio Jan 2016 #99
Thank you also! swilton Jan 2016 #118
Please make an OP once all three interviews have been done. winter is coming Jan 2016 #127
Will do! CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #138
Thanks for posting this - maybe consider an OP? Juicy_Bellows Jan 2016 #120
Thanks for link...nt Jesus Malverde Jan 2016 #133
Bill had real charm - she doesn't. 840high Jan 2016 #121
They are conducting the last 20th century campaign. eom Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #65
Is it not great that the people are not dumb? The Washington talking heads were so wrong. daybranch Jan 2016 #132
Swing and a miss! tazkcmo Jan 2016 #4
lol Armstead Jan 2016 #72
social media is on fire restorefreedom Jan 2016 #5
I hope Bernie steps in to say he respects that a daughter is loyal to her mother zazen Jan 2016 #15
I hope he doesn't infantilize her in that way. winter is coming Jan 2016 #18
Clinton herself has used this BS dating back to November pengu Jan 2016 #21
rhetorically he should literally "infantilize" her--that'd be my advice anyway zazen Jan 2016 #24
The media might have this, and leave Sanders only having to say ... Babel_17 Jan 2016 #77
yep. Thank heavens. Sad for Chelsea but it did just fall in our lap. n/t zazen Jan 2016 #80
No. Chelsea's already torpedoed her own credibility. winter is coming Jan 2016 #91
100 percent correct. eom SusanaMontana41 Jan 2016 #126
I heard one of his responses and he corrected the message, not the messenger... CTyankee Jan 2016 #125
Exactly. And she lied to smear a good person. cui bono Jan 2016 #98
"Tacky"!? Seriously? If anything was tacky, it was Gene Debs Jan 2016 #22
y'all do get that we're going to need some of these Clinton supporters in Nov? zazen Jan 2016 #26
They got over it in '08 Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #74
Very True! Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #101
Pragmatic voters who won't mind voting for a proud proponent of a progressive Democratic platform Babel_17 Jan 2016 #78
Good post, I agree 100% sammythecat Jan 2016 #90
Not as if it's Chelsea's first campaign, either. John Poet Jan 2016 #141
No, she's not a child in any context. She's a daughter. cali Jan 2016 #23
if it makes you feel better, restorefreedom Jan 2016 #32
I also wasn't personally criticizing you but the supposed social media posts zazen Jan 2016 #35
oh i didn't take it as a criticism at all restorefreedom Jan 2016 #40
That loyality justification is just one step away from "I was only following orders." sarge43 Jan 2016 #34
Very well said lastone Jan 2016 #47
She's extremely well educated and had a high paying career in the finance sector Babel_17 Jan 2016 #75
OFFS... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #81
completely agree AND.... SandersDem Jan 2016 #106
Grown women in their thirties with all the advantages Chelsea has had do not need to be defended sabrina 1 Jan 2016 #86
I agree that is the best thing to do davidpdx Jan 2016 #137
She is not a child. 840high Jan 2016 #122
The apple does not fall far from the tree. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #7
Nope. She is in the family business now FlatBaroque Jan 2016 #46
+1 and twitter has been on fire since she dae Jan 2016 #102
KICK & R. Segami Jan 2016 #8
The problem Bernie has here firebrand80 Jan 2016 #9
that's fair--and I look forward to his plan being released n/t zazen Jan 2016 #13
Single Payer isn't defined yet? SHRED Jan 2016 #17
There are different ways to accomplish that goal firebrand80 Jan 2016 #28
No one forced Hillary to fill in the 'blank' with a lie SHRED Jan 2016 #33
quite possible nt firebrand80 Jan 2016 #36
Very true ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #37
GOP Governors wouldn't deny healthcare to their people firebrand80 Jan 2016 #44
Of Course They Would. SDJay Jan 2016 #56
White Supremacy is an ideology nt firebrand80 Jan 2016 #70
LOL ... History would suggest otherwise. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #60
Did you forget the sarcasm thingie? nt SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #109
So--explain how the GOP has stopped people over 65 from getting Medicare eridani Jan 2016 #131
The Third Way plan has failed. Let's go with the alternative: single payer. eom Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #66
At this point it is better to set a goal, because there are many possible paths Armstead Jan 2016 #76
Politically, specifics might be overrated firebrand80 Jan 2016 #88
True. Frankly as a Sanders supporter.... Armstead Jan 2016 #89
So... which is it? Scootaloo Jan 2016 #114
What I mean is firebrand80 Jan 2016 #116
Expanding Medicare to cover EVERYBODY has not been defined yet? bvar22 Jan 2016 #104
Yes he does--his own senate bill eridani Jan 2016 #130
Has he said that's his plan? nt firebrand80 Jan 2016 #135
Of course. An actual bill is pretty detailed. Better to stick to the basic underlying value-- eridani Jan 2016 #140
Axelrod is an Obama person...so is Biden. Not so sure Obama supports Hillary. Punkingal Jan 2016 #10
I'm not sure how they feel about Bernie DemocraticWing Jan 2016 #100
Mostly agree truebluegreen Jan 2016 #115
There goes HRC chance to be the first safeinOhio Jan 2016 #11
Good Answer by Hillary gordyfl Jan 2016 #16
If she hits Powerball - I'll 840high Jan 2016 #123
Nooooooo Chelsea!! You don't have to become part of the Clinton machine... raindaddy Jan 2016 #19
Chelsea is more beholden to the finance sector than Hillary is. hollowdweller Jan 2016 #20
After watching her performance it's clear she's still a sh*tty liar.. raindaddy Jan 2016 #25
Yep, they got Chelsea while she was a baby... Helen Borg Jan 2016 #31
Isn't her husband a Goldman-Sachs exec.? callous taoboy Jan 2016 #58
Making 2 million a year. Their 840high Jan 2016 #124
Yes, but, any person with half a brain... Helen Borg Jan 2016 #30
I'm sure the strategy was to roll out the daughter to lie about Sander's health care proposal .... raindaddy Jan 2016 #41
So, now they busted poor Chelsea's reputation too! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #45
Yep....She was obviously uncomfortable.... raindaddy Jan 2016 #50
I find it really sad that camp Clinton put her out to lie like that. bunnies Jan 2016 #39
put her out to lie like that. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #61
She had a choice in the matter... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #82
I agree that it was her own decision. bunnies Jan 2016 #84
What is the definition of a lie? bluestateguy Jan 2016 #42
A statement or claim that is factually false cali Jan 2016 #43
Close, but a bit more complex than that... Helen Borg Jan 2016 #54
Chelsea damn well knows... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #83
Agreed. Helen Borg Jan 2016 #87
In this context, it is deliberatly trying to create the opposite imnpression from the truth Armstead Jan 2016 #79
Apparently the hedge apple doesn't fall far from the hedge. dogman Jan 2016 #48
All for the prize. Sienna86 Jan 2016 #51
Clearly Bernie is an awful person for forcing Chelsea to lie like this Fumesucker Jan 2016 #52
So true. How dare that peon? cali Jan 2016 #53
Such cruelty. Cornering the Clintons like that! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #55
Yet ANOTHER Example SDJay Jan 2016 #59
Just like her mother and daddy. No surprise here. She knows how to lie and defame people's Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #64
They had No, Nada intentions of trying to be "honest "... S. Laysi Jan 2016 #67
I really thought Hillary was smarter than this. What a fiasco! Duval Jan 2016 #68
I don't think it's stupid. I think it's a calculated gamble cali Jan 2016 #69
Their calculator appears to be broken Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #128
It was bullshit like this -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2016 #71
Same thing happened to me. SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #110
You are talking about this gem: davidpdx Jan 2016 #136
The referees look to be forming a consensus ruling Babel_17 Jan 2016 #73
A picture says a 1000 words .. Jarqui Jan 2016 #85
Good find! SusanCalvin Jan 2016 #111
Indeed but to be clear Jarqui Jan 2016 #113
LOL!!! Peace Patriot Jan 2016 #129
This is a sincere question and I hope this isn't lazy Z_California Jan 2016 #93
An Adult Speaks Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #94
So much fail with the Clinton campaign azmom Jan 2016 #95
Sorry I am having a hard time getting past David Axelrod Kalidurga Jan 2016 #103
Honest Clinton An Oxymoron billhicks76 Jan 2016 #107
Chelsea appeared lame and unprepared Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #112
So this links goes to abc news with Hillary and her Clinton connection George INdemo Jan 2016 #117
Further proof that... Geronimoe Jan 2016 #119
"Since when do Americans attack one another on Universal Healthcare? I thought we were trying to secondwind Jan 2016 #134
Why does anyone with half a brain listen to an oligarchy princess? Ivan Kaputski Jan 2016 #139
K & R LWolf Jan 2016 #143
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