2016 Postmortem

AllyCat

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15. I was stunned when I heard both women's attack on single-payer

Thu Jan 14, 2016, 04:04 PM

Jan 2016

Who needs CHIP and private insurance and ACA when you have better and cheaper? Tenet Healthcare's latest quagmire to weaken safety standards. For pediatric surgeries are just the latest example of why for-profit healthcare doesn't work for us.

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Hillary Clinton�s Fatal Weakness Exposed Yet Again - Salon [View all] WillyT Jan 2016 OP

Yep That's how Hillary rolls, and it's all down-hill for her from here. K&R!! n/t 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #1

downhill or down-Hill? Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #35

Ha! I'm a twitter dummy .. so feel free. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #36

Oh god. #down-hill. That is genius roguevalley Jan 2016 #48

Can't use a dash (-) in a hashtag... MattSh Jan 2016 #138

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #2

Hillary doesn't have fatal weakness she strong: Tomorrow is lewebley3 Jan 2016 #24

Stop drinking the Hillary koolaid passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #27

Bots can't drink. cui bono Jan 2016 #44

I can't tell if it is Bizarro Superman, the Incredible Hulk or Tonto virtualobserver Jan 2016 #54

A Dalek? AnnetteJacobs Jan 2016 #60

I'm telling you it's Yoda tularetom Jan 2016 #156

Her fatal weakness is her lack of honesty n/t arcane1 Jan 2016 #28

Nebulous on its face? Safe as Milk Jan 2016 #88

This thread isn't about Trump or Cruz. arcane1 Jan 2016 #89

Milk Is Right scottie55 Jan 2016 #139

because we all know the GOP has no honesty DonCoquixote Jan 2016 #152

Safe as milk huh. Try that on the billions who can't digest dairy greiner3 Jan 2016 #172

Just keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better:) litlbilly Jan 2016 #39

I will keep supporting Hillary: to keep GOP out of the Whitehouse lewebley3 Jan 2016 #97

You do know the polls now show Bernie crushing all repubs, Hillary is losing to Cruz and 1 ahead of litlbilly Jan 2016 #99

It's the otherway around.Polls show Bernie beating Trump bjobotts Jan 2016 #107

Obviously you haven't seen the GE INdemo Jan 2016 #115

A typical argurement from a Hillary supporter Left Coast2020 Jan 2016 #133

Interesting assertion. Just out of curiosity, PatrickforO Jan 2016 #177

This message was self-deleted by its author Left Coast2020 Jan 2016 #136

Squashed like a bug... PatrickforO Jan 2016 #176

Bernie has said he wants to be in GE with tRump Duckfan Jan 2016 #179

Surely you jest. pangaia Jan 2016 #41

No its not: Hillary has always supported worked for Dem's and the American people lewebley3 Jan 2016 #65

OK, if you say so. pangaia Jan 2016 #73

Strong as in strong candidate? Nope. Jackilope Jan 2016 #49

Verily, she's got what plants crave. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #86

LOL. That made me think of this: Fawke Em Jan 2016 #94

Exactly. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #95

And I thought of this: Left Coast2020 Jan 2016 #134

What in her history shows what a great get things done gal she is. hedda_foil Jan 2016 #100

If you cannot think of Hillary's accomplishments you have been living under lewebley3 Jan 2016 #101

Okay. I've been living under a rock then. She's had a couple of fancy gigs but what has she done? hedda_foil Jan 2016 #114

" . . . " Mike__M Jan 2016 #144

What's it like to participate in the Arirang Festival? looks like hard work! Scootaloo Jan 2016 #103

Her fatal weakness is honesty. She has amassed $50 million dollars for her personal fortune rhett o rick Jan 2016 #131

What? bvf Jan 2016 #154

K & R Awknid Jan 2016 #3

It's like she thought EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #4

Commander in Chief?? Wilms Jan 2016 #5

hard to believe that Hillary Clinton sincerely believes much of anything that she says. AlbertCat Jan 2016 #6

And these attacks just shine a giant spotlight on that. jeff47 Jan 2016 #13

Her distorted criticism of Sanders' health care proposals weaken the argument... Safe as Milk Jan 2016 #92

Her only sincere, core belief is that she wants to be president. Shadowflash Jan 2016 #14

the whole vibe of her campaign is just off, flat and fraught. I feel it permeating roguevalley Jan 2016 #50

You are both correct. GoneFishin Jan 2016 #146

Hillary speaks from the Heart and her record supports her she is very honest lewebley3 Jan 2016 #19

and he(r) record supports her she (is) very honest AlbertCat Jan 2016 #25

And the Clintons were near bankruptcy when they left the WH. lob1 Jan 2016 #108

It was even worse than that. Kall Jan 2016 #142

They were almost forced to sell of one of their mansions! Ikonoklast Jan 2016 #159

You are correct. But most people here are either asjr Jan 2016 #37

this is a message board where information and ideas are exchanged. Any story roguevalley Jan 2016 #51

Have you not read the news in the last two days? cui bono Jan 2016 #58

I think I probably need to explain myself. When I was in school in East Tennessee in the 1940s asjr Jan 2016 #71

When the words are on video it's hard to dispute that she lied. I don't "think" she lied. She DID. cui bono Jan 2016 #75

And don't forget that when she proposed her health care plan as First Lady Left Coast2020 Jan 2016 #135

I'm from and still live in East Tennessee and I can tell you that Fawke Em Jan 2016 #96

HA HA !!! OR as the younger generation says.. LOL !!! pangaia Jan 2016 #112

BTW. pangaia Jan 2016 #113

I DO believe you. really. I do. And I understand what you are saying. pangaia Jan 2016 #111

I'm voting for Hillary---- John Poet Jan 2016 #122

Well, that's a laughable. Bradical79 Jan 2016 #67

You know, I have an idea.. pangaia Jan 2016 #109

Just the opposite actually, all you have to do is look. litlbilly Jan 2016 #42

No just the truth: Hillary has had successes: Sanders has hot air lewebley3 Jan 2016 #62

What? I have no idea what you just said. You do know hot air is subjective right? What is litlbilly Jan 2016 #66

This has nothing to do with Salon and everything to do with the candidate. hedda_foil Jan 2016 #105

Is Hillary's campaign Paying You To Make These Bizarre Statements? CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #130

OR her daughter. pangaia Jan 2016 #43

Chelsea's statement was kind of funny. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #7

Not to mention pregnant women going to the methadone clinics, where they meet AllyCat Jan 2016 #17

at least twice lately women were kicked out of hospitals and died outside on the ground. roguevalley Jan 2016 #52

Chelsea told the truth: Sanders is bashing ACA: and Obama lewebley3 Jan 2016 #20

She lied and said he wants to "dismantle Medicare" arcane1 Jan 2016 #31

She told the truth about Sanders: he is dishonest about the ACA lewebley3 Jan 2016 #61

Play that role! Maybe someday you'll be good at it arcane1 Jan 2016 #63

You keeping playing like Sander has been useful to Dem's lewebley3 Jan 2016 #64

And you keep playing like hilldawg has... intersectionality Jan 2016 #98

Thank you for your input. pangaia Jan 2016 #45

+a brazillion kath Jan 2016 #53

I thought that was pretty good, myself. :>))) pangaia Jan 2016 #57

Politifact: Chelsea Clinton on Sanders Healthcre Plan 'Mostly False' Hissyspit Jan 2016 #72

Politicfacrts is a GOP supporters outfit lewebley3 Jan 2016 #74

You are kind of like listening to my grandfather after he had a stroke hueymahl Jan 2016 #76

poltifact doesn't take on Trump: they aren't worth much lewebley3 Jan 2016 #77

Really? hueymahl Jan 2016 #79

Not really true. Hissyspit Jan 2016 #104

I repeat Left Coast2020 Jan 2016 #137

Post removed Post removed Jan 2016 #106

You should blog. n/t bvf Jan 2016 #155

Actually, they've been doing a great job of pointing out that Repubs have been massively Hissyspit Jan 2016 #102

Are you for real? Seriously... SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #145

No. Obama and I remember this because it was a special speech to his supporters JDPriestly Jan 2016 #143

The aca only passed with Big Pharma/Insurance blessings wordpix Jan 2016 #169

Not only "on" the offensive, Hillary Clinton is offensive fbc Jan 2016 #8

truly. kath Jan 2016 #12

I believe she'll say anything to get elected and then Duval Jan 2016 #9

Thank you, Willy Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #10

Geez, it almost starts to look like Mike__M Jan 2016 #11

I have had the same thought loyalsister Jan 2016 #123

I was stunned when I heard both women's attack on single-payer AllyCat Jan 2016 #15

Is it just me ejbr Jan 2016 #16

i noticed that too restorefreedom Jan 2016 #29

I would hide in embarrassment too, if it was me. n/t arcane1 Jan 2016 #32

Absence usually precedes a fresh onslaught of talking points. n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #33

I'm sure they are huddled in a room somewhere trying to make some up:) litlbilly Jan 2016 #46

anyone check that room? MisterP Jan 2016 #129

you mean it's not a total coincidence when they all show up at once using the exact same verbiage? Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #149

I commented on that yesterday. Even they won't defend her blatant lies. cui bono Jan 2016 #40

Lord knows I went to bat ejbr Jan 2016 #55

It is NOT just you. pangaia Jan 2016 #47

She's uninevitable again. Be easy on them, they're still hurt from 2008. morningfog Jan 2016 #128

I've said all along, if she doesn't get it this time, the shit-losing in some corners will be EPIC. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #150

You'd think she'd be better at lying with all her practice. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #18

Kick and R BeanMusical Jan 2016 #21

I would be more willing to support her if she would actually stick to causes she believes/believed Scalded Nun Jan 2016 #22

She hasn't canged her mind on EVERYTHING... Shadowflash Jan 2016 #59

Agreed. SoapBox Jan 2016 #23

Boom, 2008 redux! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #26

Hell, Hillary's attacks are starting to sound like republican spin kenfrequed Jan 2016 #30

It's called lying! We saw the same when she ran against Obama... raindaddy Jan 2016 #34

they may very well remind voters, once again, that Hillary Clinton will say anything to be elected cui bono Jan 2016 #38

The key word here: anything. If she says and does the wrong thing? How is that smart? Here's a litlbilly Jan 2016 #69

It's d�j� vu all over again. Reminds me totally of 2008. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #56

Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #68

The right-wingers are all sure that she will be in prison before the election. mwb970 Jan 2016 #70

The democratic party cannot win the election with Sanders. Thenewire Jan 2016 #78

Ah, the Nader argument. GoneOffShore Jan 2016 #90

I'm glad you brought up "fear mongering from the right." Iggo Jan 2016 #140

If he can defeat the mighty inevitable Clinton, what makes you think he can't beat the GOP? Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #151

That doesn't matter at all Thenewire Jan 2016 #158

"even resort to outright lies" LondonReign2 Jan 2016 #162

You are right and this is one of the big differences between progressives and conservatives Thenewire Jan 2016 #165

Right, pre-emtively blaming liberals and claiming the only way can LondonReign2 Jan 2016 #173

There is no way that Sanders will win the general election. Thenewire Jan 2016 #174

FEAR! Unfortunately your friends have tried this line of attack before LondonReign2 Jan 2016 #175

I'm terrified. snort Jan 2016 #164

Yes, yes. LondonReign2 Jan 2016 #161

The democratic party cannot win the election with Clinton. nashville_brook Jan 2016 #166

I disagree vehemently wordpix Jan 2016 #170

Hillary Clinton isn't fit for office. ANY office. 99Forever Jan 2016 #80

I agree with you wholeheartedly. Shrillary should have gone away eight years ago... Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #82

I don't think Hillary is capable on being anything except what she is. 99Forever Jan 2016 #87

The most telling line in the whole piece is this: Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #81

^This^ GoneOffShore Jan 2016 #83

+1 MissDeeds Jan 2016 #84

Entitled to be President. This is her last shot at that. I hope she fails SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #148

More pathological misogyny! Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #85

Her Weakness Is That She Lies All The Time billhicks76 Jan 2016 #91

However, it is alarmingly abnormal. senz Jan 2016 #118

Corruption Of Character billhicks76 Jan 2016 #178

SPOT ON! Plucketeer Jan 2016 #93

I don't know about "fatal" HassleCat Jan 2016 #110

It still hasn't dawned on the Clintons that they don't OWN the Democratic Party.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #116

I think Bernie as the Presidential nominee and Hillary as VP is an unbeatable combination. jalan48 Jan 2016 #117

Elizabeth Warren would be a better choice. YOHABLO Jan 2016 #119

Bernie needs to go after the more conservative Democratic vote. jalan48 Jan 2016 #120

One of the best things about Hillary losing the nomination (again) Le Taz Hot Jan 2016 #163

Just when you think the Clintons can't get any more dishonest-- John Poet Jan 2016 #121

Insincerity is the least of Ms. Clinton's shortcomings. Clinton fatigue has set in already. WestSeattle2 Jan 2016 #124

Hill, Yeah, WillyT MrMickeysMom Jan 2016 #125

Hillary Clinton's fatal weakness is, simply, that she is Hillary Clinton. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #126

She's just not good at this. And she's a nasty liar. morningfog Jan 2016 #127

"Since when do Democrats attack one another on universal health care?" Beartracks Jan 2016 #132

Bernie zombies post neg stuff about clinton then thumbs up it to the greatest page Liberal_in_LA Jan 2016 #141

Hillary lies. Gets called on it. Hill supporters whine cali Jan 2016 #147

This is only negative because Hillary lied. Deal with it. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #153

There's just no there there. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #157

I think we should support our favorite knowing that we'll support whoever is the Democratic nominee. Zen Democrat Jan 2016 #160

O h gawd, LW1977 Jan 2016 #167

It's why I switched support from her to Obama in 2008. Cheap_Trick Jan 2016 #168

Hillary makes me cringe when I hear her speak... Arugula Latte Jan 2016 #171