2016 Postmortem

tazkcmo

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69. Listened to a small portion

Mon Jan 18, 2016, 08:17 PM

Jan 2016

I worked late last night so I missed the debates. I did listen to a small portion of it, the portion of Sec Clinton telling us what she wanted in referance to healthcare. "I want...", I want...", I want...", "I don't want...", etc. Wow. I don't give 2 turds what she wants. It's what the people want and need. To hell with her self entitled, 1%, dishonest, shady ass character.

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It's kind of surreal to see all these threads on DU attacking Single Payer [View all] Quixote1818 Jan 2016 OP

and linking to right wing sources to do it even! m-lekktor Jan 2016 #1

I know - it's like bizarro world around here. Vinca Jan 2016 #2

You're a whole commie to me! cui bono Jan 2016 #14

The wind has been blowing in a different direction hifiguy Jan 2016 #45

Just remember Plucketeer Jan 2016 #76

Can you please point to posters on this board DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #3

It isn't so much opposition as it is that they think it is unachievable, so they oppose it now. n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #24

Some have been acclimated to the notion that "good enough" is the best we can reasonably expect. Bubzer Jan 2016 #33

And they have adopted preemptive surrender hifiguy Jan 2016 #47

They start negotiating for less than half of half a loaf, sulphurdunn Jan 2016 #71

Shit, they give away everything but the heel of the loaf hifiguy Jan 2016 #74

The followers get crumbs Deny and Shred Jan 2016 #75

some don't seem to understand PatrynXX Jan 2016 #70

No we don't oppose it, and applaud Bernie for advocating for it. Fla Dem Jan 2016 #54

Bernie has never said it would be anything other than a fight. And would have to wait for JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #60

The same that post it is unachievable are the same that post.... Hotler Jan 2016 #81

Thank you! Amimnoch Jan 2016 #91

Whose straw man? Cartoonist Jan 2016 #101

See post 91. NT hueymahl Jan 2016 #98

The Clinton candidacy has made flip-floppers ... earthside Jan 2016 #4

Paradigm Shift: Trump pulls RW towards fascism, anti-single payer pull Dems towards Reagan. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #63

That's how far Hillbies will go floriduck Jan 2016 #5

Exactly right- it's not about helping people it's about Hillary, Hillary, Hillary! Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #18

Listened to a small portion tazkcmo Jan 2016 #69

Bingo! eom Karma13612 Jan 2016 #93

...^ that 840high Jan 2016 #78

Bingo. hifiguy Jan 2016 #48

To be fair, it is only a small although quite vocal group on DU. Live and Learn Jan 2016 #6

Them and the likely Democratic nominee for President Z_California Jan 2016 #83

Looking much more unlikely these days. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #85

Things are definitely looking up Z_California Jan 2016 #87

Being grounded is highly overrated. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #88

If the party line is "dogshit is yummy" guess what's for dinner? Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #7

Chihuahua crap appetizers, Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #12

Thanks for dinner Uncle Joe! cui bono Jan 2016 #15

Uncle Joe... yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #43

Guy Fieri would eat it up! LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2016 #46

yuiyoshida Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #50

Don't tell me you are wasting yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #52

Of course not, Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #56

I really think yuiyoshida Jan 2016 #58

Considering global warming climate change Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #67

That sounds about right, Uncle Joe. hifiguy Jan 2016 #51

The fickleness is rampant here lately. Some are loyal to a fault. n/t Avalux Jan 2016 #8

Agree. THere seems to be a lot of NO, WE CAN'T! Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #9

Hillary's dragging the Party & DU back 20 years. Single-payer? Too hard. No way. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #10

Well, I don't want to read toooooo much into it... Wilms Jan 2016 #11

I think many have had that thought...therein lies the new chasm in Democratic Party politics. libdem4life Jan 2016 #13

Damn! TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #44

Pantsuitrepublic... Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #16

I've seen several bragging about how great their insurance is now. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #17

This is why I can't tolerate them. malokvale77 Jan 2016 #57

That is the epitome of Republicanism and the antithesis of liberalism. senz Jan 2016 #99

This is why we have to work our asses off to make sure Bernie beats Hillary. stillwaiting Jan 2016 #19

+ 1000 orpupilofnature57 Jan 2016 #22

Single Celled Amoebas are more discerning, It's about Who has worked for people more than themselves orpupilofnature57 Jan 2016 #20

My sentiments exactly! dpatbrown Jan 2016 #21

Oh for fuck sake... MrWendel Jan 2016 #23

False argument. Who said anything about repealing the ACA and starting over? fbc Jan 2016 #26

Because the foundation isn't really good - it doesn't fit the new floorplan. jeff47 Jan 2016 #29

+1 kristopher Jan 2016 #89

Uhhh, if single payer becomes law; greiner3 Jan 2016 #31

Eeyup. hifiguy Jan 2016 #53

I suspect they know this, internally Kall Jan 2016 #92

It is bizzare... SoapBox Jan 2016 #25

I think that's a misrepresentation. malthaussen Jan 2016 #27

Been on DU for 12 years. Never seen anything like it nradisic Jan 2016 #28

... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #30

Lemmings is the perfect analogy. nt malokvale77 Jan 2016 #62

"We've always be at war at war with Single Payer" Babel_17 Jan 2016 #32

Hillbots have declared her empresses and anything that challenges the throne Feeling the Bern Jan 2016 #34

Much truth there, FtB. hifiguy Jan 2016 #59

I'm glad I haven't been around much. Ugh. HuckleB Jan 2016 #35

Marching orders. bvf Jan 2016 #36

If Clinton's agin' it, they're agin' it. Iggo Jan 2016 #37

There's just something nutty about it. senz Jan 2016 #103

I'd love Medicare for all. It would benefit me personally. JohnnyRingo Jan 2016 #38

If Bernie Sanders were for puppies we would have 10 threads an hour about "the puppy menance" Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #39

I think I may have seen one, not "all these". George II Jan 2016 #40

I'm still waiting for someone to answer DSB, upthread. murielm99 Jan 2016 #73

Must be from the same cast of characters in my ignore list because I am not seeing any of it. corkhead Jan 2016 #41

I'm at 107 Hillbots ignored. Life is great! Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #49

I took all of mine off last week. It didn't feel right having all of those people on a "list" Ned_Devine Jan 2016 #90

Once the primaries are decided, I'll take them off. Then its circle the wagon time. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #97

anything to maintain the status quo and keep power in the familys...... bowens43 Jan 2016 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author etherealtruth Jan 2016 #55

We've transformed ourseleves into the moderate Republican party... raindaddy Jan 2016 #61

I remember when ACA was sold as an incremental step toward single payer. pa28 Jan 2016 #64

I was not impressed by Hilary attacking Bernie's desire for single payer healthcare! DrewFlorida Jan 2016 #65

This "newbie" is sick of this shit & basically DONE with DU. See ya. NT slumcamper Jan 2016 #66

I guess if that what you feel is the position you have to take in order to defend OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #68

Most are attacking it because it's not going to happen. Tommy2Tone Jan 2016 #72

We are seeing the third way rip off the mask - TBF Jan 2016 #77

For sure... ViseGrip Jan 2016 #79

The rightward drift of the party Z_California Jan 2016 #80

DU has taught me LWolf Jan 2016 #82

DU has been a horrible eye-opener for me senz Jan 2016 #102

The shame is all on Hillary Utopian Leftist Jan 2016 #84

If the Queen of half measures isn't for it, they're against it. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #95

This post is disruptive and hurtful..... Hotler Jan 2016 #86

I do have my concerns.... Adrahil Jan 2016 #94

Apparently. blackspade Jan 2016 #96

Just like the hyper surveillance state, war and a host of other issues..... marmar Jan 2016 #100

Locking.. one_voice Jan 2016 #104