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2016 Postmortem

kenfrequed

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31. Exactly

Reply to Ken Burch (Original post)

Wed Jan 20, 2016, 02:27 PM

Jan 2016

And the disadvantage is that rather than the Bernie Democratic starting point being intensely populist and progressive and giving us the ability to spin their opposition to policies that benefit the people, we will have Hillary's stilted and very hedging squishy policy that she puts forth that people will be harder to energize when the GOP does try blocking it.

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It doesn't matter that HRC is "pragmatic"...Rethugs will block everything SHE proposes. [View all] Ken Burch Jan 2016 OP

You are deluding yourself if you think republicans are any likelier to help Sanders. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #1

The point is, they equally wouldn't ever help HRC. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #4

The point is yes it will be hard but Sanders will get as much opposition from them. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #5

Unlike HRC, Bernie will fight hard to defeat the forces that bought a GOP majority. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #9

I am forwarding your post to a dear friend who supports HRC only for pragmatice reasons. Stardust Jan 2016 #21

+1 daleanime Jan 2016 #27

+1000 katsy Jan 2016 #30

If it is opposition either way kenfrequed Jan 2016 #32

The opposition will be much worse to Clinton. earthside Jan 2016 #13

And they are going to do whatever Hillary wants? cui bono Jan 2016 #14

Yes and don't forget, Bill will be her economic advisor. Avalux Jan 2016 #2

And how that will help the people who need help. cui bono Jan 2016 #12

Bernie will at least raise holy hell and try and bust through the obstructionism. I don't brewens Jan 2016 #3

Exactly kcjohn1 Jan 2016 #6

She will never be POTUS. If she is our nominee, tRump will be elected. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #7

Well, I don't know, Bill got a few things through. Things the republicans wanted like NAFTA, Live and Learn Jan 2016 #8

Which is what I told Hillary supporters Nedsdag Jan 2016 #10

"If anything, they would impeach her instead of working with her." cui bono Jan 2016 #15

"pragmatic" at this point simply means "corporate". cui bono Jan 2016 #11

No, it doesn't. Only an ideologue would not grasp what pragmatism means KittyWampus Jan 2016 #20

+100 JustAnotherGen Jan 2016 #26

Hillary has raised money for the DNC, Progressive dog Jan 2016 #16

Unbelievable tazkcmo Jan 2016 #17

Republicans truly hate the Clintons. She said as much azmom Jan 2016 #18

Except she actually has worked within the Congressional Democratic party over the years KittyWampus Jan 2016 #19

Bernie has worked with Congressional Dems for decades. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #24

The control of the SCOTUS is one of my key issues Gothmog Jan 2016 #22

Bernie will nominate great justices, too. And we now know he is just as electabler as HRC. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #23

If he gets elected-I do not believe that he is viable Gothmog Jan 2016 #25

The inference of "tribal war" is certainly correct. The hate is, IMO, unreasonable, but libdem4life Jan 2016 #28

They believe things like Sequestration are 'pragmatic'. AgingAmerican Jan 2016 #29

Exactly kenfrequed Jan 2016 #31

everything will end with a win for corporations, republicans, and Hillary 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #33

But Hillary won't block everything the Rethugs propose. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #34