2016 Postmortem

humbled_opinion

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42. Your own comment is an

Tue Jan 26, 2016, 09:32 AM

Jan 2016

indictment on why Hillary can't win a GE.... " I support Hillary, but I do admit, I'm not passionate about it." If you, a loyal supporter that is overlooking her multitude of flaws and baggage aren't passionate about supporting her, how in the world will she ever get enough support to win a GE? Haven't you paid attention to how hugely important this election is turning out to be? More to the point can you even for one minute imagine Trump in the White House, I was struck with fear one day at work when a die hard Teapublican said to me I don't care what Trump says or does he has my unconditional support, I asked why and his response is that I and all like minded Democrats never once stood up to stop Obama from usurping the Constitution with his lawless attacks on our Freedom, I couldn't eve respond to that because it sounded so insane to me, but that is their mainstream now. I feel bad that Hillary brings so much baggage and that she is not inspiring like Bernie is, see:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017324155

for context.

So then I ask Hillary supporters why are you all so hard and fast against Bernie, his campaign is reaching critical mass, he is leading in all the early state polls, so to me it looks like there is only side in this debate that is being stubborn....

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I'm in a bit of a somber mood today. The reason I support [View all] mmonk Jan 2016 OP

I support Clinton for the same reason. In the end, everyone here has the same goals. DanTex Jan 2016 #1

Given all the crap you've been posting about Bernie Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #2

^^^THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #3

+ a brazillion Roland99 Jan 2016 #26

We are on the same side, even Clinton's supporters. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #4

I'm voting for the Dem candidate in November either way. You? DanTex Jan 2016 #6

It doesn't matter who I vote for in the GE Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #7

she has so much experience, dontcha know Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #9

You don't think it's even slightly ironic that you accuse me of bashing Sanders, and then DanTex Jan 2016 #10

Hoping for a TOS? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #15

Huh? Why is this so complicated? I said we're all on the same side. Which we are. DanTex Jan 2016 #16

Hillary supporters have been setting up Sanders supporters with that question. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #18

Not sure how "will you vote for the Dem nominee" could possibly be a set-up. Particularly in DanTex Jan 2016 #19

It's a tactic.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #20

I know that MannyG got PPRed because of that, but it didn't seem like it took much baiting. DanTex Jan 2016 #30

In the future you should avoid the question altogether to avoid being accused of baiting.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #32

Who you are voting for is a perfectly reasonable question--on this site. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #82

Some have used the THREAT of withholding their vote in the hopes of dragging the party to the left.. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #92

No self-respecting VW Microbus owner would let their bong water grow polliwogs. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #110

I met some that believed it would gain mystical powers.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #117

We are all on the same side because we have the same goals? A Simple Game Jan 2016 #47

You wrote: asuhornets Jan 2016 #56

She wants to drop some bombs on some middle eastern moms, but NO boots on the ground! Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #108

Same goals, just different ways to get there. It's fair to disagree about strategy. DanTex Jan 2016 #61

Maybe because you often deliberately push the negative hot buttons of Sanders supporters Armstead Jan 2016 #57

Because the people who post, Bernie is a commie, or he's gonna raise your taxes are not on our side litlbilly Jan 2016 #90

Haven't seen any commie posts, and Bernie's the one who said he was gonna DanTex Jan 2016 #91

Then you havent been paying attention. litlbilly Jan 2016 #93

Or is it that you just like poking sticks even though you know you are completely wrong litlbilly Jan 2016 #94

That was my impression as well... Bubzer Jan 2016 #17

Your and my definition of "bash" is apparently different. Health Wagon Jan 2016 #27

And vice versa. I post facts about Bernie, people don't like it, accuse me of stuff. Meh. DanTex Jan 2016 #29

Like what? Health Wagon Jan 2016 #33

For example, that he voted for gun industry immunity. That even liberal commentators like Krugman DanTex Jan 2016 #34

He voted for gun immunity for the manufacturers Health Wagon Jan 2016 #37

yeah i never get an answer to that either... druidity33 Jan 2016 #69

I'm telling you about my EXPERIENCES, directly and indirectly, with Hillary Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #40

Anecdotes, yeah, I get it. I'm sure there are people in Vermont disappointed with Bernie. DanTex Jan 2016 #41

I will feel better about Hillary mdbl Jan 2016 #80

It's unfortunate you see this as a Hillary-bash.. mountain grammy Jan 2016 #49

It's equally unfortunate that that poster describes my factual posts about Bernie as "crap". DanTex Jan 2016 #60

Will I vote for a Conservadem? PatrynXX Jan 2016 #78

Because she's got a new logo. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #14

Thank You classykaren Jan 2016 #25

Thanks for that I learned a few things nt Jarqui Jan 2016 #79

Thank you for sharing your memories, Art. senz Jan 2016 #106

Just wanted to leave my sig line here Android3.14 Jan 2016 #11

It is a very clever sig line. And the post too. Clever! DanTex Jan 2016 #12

Are you guys keeping a list of those that answer no? There will be a lot of people rhett o rick Jan 2016 #74

I'm voting for whoever shares what I believe in PatrynXX Jan 2016 #77

Looks like we're NOT all on the same page ecstatic Jan 2016 #89

Hey, I've posted some nasty crap about Senator Sanders as well. Amimnoch Jan 2016 #13

I've seen a handfull of your posts, and disagreed with a number of them... but I agree with this one Bubzer Jan 2016 #23

I have decided to get out of the shit slinging, and follow our candidates lead into a more positive Amimnoch Jan 2016 #66

I have to admit, my own posts have been of lower caliber than I expect of myself in recent times. Bubzer Jan 2016 #68

I couldn't agree more! Amimnoch Jan 2016 #70

Your own comment is an humbled_opinion Jan 2016 #42

I disagree. Amimnoch Jan 2016 #65

I too admire what she has accomplished humbled_opinion Jan 2016 #95

+1000000 SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #22

I have never said anything negative about Bernie Cary Jan 2016 #35

DanTex doesn't do smears or BS. redstateblues Jan 2016 #44

+10 840high Jan 2016 #83

Of course we are on the same side humbled_opinion Jan 2016 #38

Not really, you are Hillary are on daybranch Jan 2016 #51

I don't know you and I can only comment on my general experience here Cary Jan 2016 #52

You can get the same results with Hillary, or at least a lot of us firmly believe that Fumesucker Jan 2016 #76

Totally ridiculous Cary Jan 2016 #84

Like it or not, fair or not, true or not, a lot of people believe that Fumesucker Jan 2016 #87

There will be some disaffected people Cary Jan 2016 #88

When a candidate basically has to say "I am not a crook" it doesn't inspire confidence Fumesucker Jan 2016 #118

Once again the mainstream will move forward, Cary Jan 2016 #120

Huh? I'm not on the side of any oligarchy. DanTex Jan 2016 #62

Of course you aren't, DanTex Cary Jan 2016 #63

You really don't think that special interests and big money retrowire Jan 2016 #71

Blinders bud. Phlem Jan 2016 #98

yeah but damn me for having an undying faith in people. lol nt retrowire Jan 2016 #102

Hear that! lol indeed! Phlem Jan 2016 #107

Ummmm...no we are NOT on the same side. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #54

Then you will lose, period. Cary Jan 2016 #64

I guess you think the wealthy are gods and deserve to win. Well a movement of the People has rhett o rick Jan 2016 #73

That's just uncalled for Cary Jan 2016 #85

Over the top, please. Phlem Jan 2016 #100

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service William769 Jan 2016 #75

Thanks. Cary Jan 2016 #86

This is a class war and we certainly are not on the same side. H. Clinton is on the side of Goldman rhett o rick Jan 2016 #72

*sigh* and the "That's news to me" doesn't cut it anymore. Phlem Jan 2016 #101

If tomorrow she put on a crown, a robe and sat on a throne, her supporters would kneel. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #103

It's just a sports match for them Lorien Jan 2016 #114

I think it's authoritarianism. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #121

That too! Lorien Jan 2016 #130

Amen Brotha. Phlem Jan 2016 #116

^^This Lorien Jan 2016 #113

hahahahahahahahahahahah - winner of today's most insincere post of the internets whereisjustice Jan 2016 #105

My goal isn't to funnel more money to the top. To frack our land until Lorien Jan 2016 #111

No, I don't believe any of this. closeupready Jan 2016 #112

Thanks, mmomk. Tanuki Jan 2016 #5

It's difficult to not be discouraged these days Doctor_J Jan 2016 #8

Shame ain't it? The louder corporations can scream, the less we can be heard. raouldukelives Jan 2016 #21

Have a great day. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #24

We are very lucky in having three very intelligent asjr Jan 2016 #43

now THAT is a nice post! restorefreedom Jan 2016 #46

Amen is all I have to say to that. You have a great day, too. merrily Jan 2016 #28

That's one of the reasons I support Bernie! K&R Duval Jan 2016 #31

K&R. Me too. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #36

...except for if they're black. Then, it's shut up and vote for Sanders regardless of what he says Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #39

Uh, no. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #59

Uh, YES! That's BOTH of them. That's both of them and their supporters telling black people... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #96

When has he acted against the interests of blacks? Goblinmonger Jan 2016 #81

He can start by stop denying racism and putting economic justice ABOVE racial justice. Race is Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #97

What do you like about O'Malley? Qutzupalotl Jan 2016 #99

Even though I like my former governor because he did some good things... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #128

maybe you need to see a broader picture of the 'justice'... islandmkl Jan 2016 #126

You don't get to tell me what I need. I know what I need. I know the issues. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #127

Bernie has fought for civil rights for 50 years Lorien Jan 2016 #115

I don't give a flying fuck how many marches Bernie Sanders participates in. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2016 #129

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #45

hang tough, mmonk restorefreedom Jan 2016 #48

I've been in a politically somber mood since the first Bush election theft. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2016 #50

It is the age old struggle of power vested either in the masses or in some elite group Cary Jan 2016 #53

I support Bernie for the same reason farleftlib Jan 2016 #55

Familiar with the feeling. Armstead Jan 2016 #58

"Fear not the Path of Truth for the lack of people walking on it" -Robert Francis Kennedy Zorra Jan 2016 #67

I hear you mmonk. lovemydog Jan 2016 #104

We honestly can't survive four more years of "Business as usual" Lorien Jan 2016 #109

Imagine Trump or Cruz with their finger on the button. Bad Dog Jan 2016 #119

I hope when you say that when you say that any Democrat is better than a Republicon that rhett o rick Jan 2016 #122

I'm not being manipulated by anyone. Bad Dog Jan 2016 #123

May I remind you that a number of Democrats betrayed us (incl HRC) and acquiesced rhett o rick Jan 2016 #124

And you want to acquiesce Bad Dog Jan 2016 #125