2016 Postmortem

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12. "I'm being held hostage"!

Reply to TCJ70 (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:01 AM

Feb 2016

How wonderfully put!

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Something for the Sanders folks to think about as we go to New Hampshire... [View all] brooklynite Feb 2016 OP

Oh FFS does your side sound desperate. Nt Logical Feb 2016 #1

15 min ago, someone on your side said Al Franken MUST be angling for a VP slot... brooklynite Feb 2016 #6

Lol, you really sound silly. Nt Logical Feb 2016 #8

Do they? TCJ70 Feb 2016 #2

"I'm being held hostage"! bvf Feb 2016 #12

Exactly. She won about 75% of those who thought electability was the biggest issue. thesquanderer Feb 2016 #94

Iowa is NOT one of the most liberal Democratric States. yourout Feb 2016 #3

No, but their Democrats are liberal.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #9

Do you mean "liberal," like Hillary is "progressive?" noiretextatique Feb 2016 #31

I'm talking about the Democratic Primary electorate... brooklynite Feb 2016 #10

The Iowa Democratic caucus goers are mythology Feb 2016 #99

brooklyn, on another subject, elleng Feb 2016 #4

Don't they go to whoever O'Malley ends up backing? That's why they call them kingmakers JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #11

Any Sanders Delegates go on to the County convention brooklynite Feb 2016 #14

So MO'M has to do something? elleng Feb 2016 #15

Not legally...he just needs to give guidance brooklynite Feb 2016 #17

Gotcha. elleng Feb 2016 #25

He didn't get enough votes to win any state delegates (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2016 #92

It was a tie..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #5

I never post in the Hillary forum...and the Bernie forum won't let me brooklynite Feb 2016 #16

Well I think I got more bang for my buck Autumn Feb 2016 #7

Bernie got 21 delegates so far. There are only two remaining. Hillary Clinton got 28. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #53

Yeah I got more. Autumn Feb 2016 #54

Yeah, um, I don't see the benefit. For months I had to read how Bernie would win both Iowa BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #60

I see Bernie as a win and I am content with our progress so far. Autumn Feb 2016 #66

Excellent. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #83

what kind of money did she have to pay for the superdelegates? virtualobserver Feb 2016 #76

You've got evidence to back up that outrageous claim? BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #84

It isn't a claim....you said you got more "bang for the buck" virtualobserver Feb 2016 #85

If you were selling something for $19 but you were offered $21 and another offered $23 BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #87

not worth the enormous sums that Mook spent for a narrow victory virtualobserver Feb 2016 #88

Got a viable link to bribery statement you toss out? FloridaBlues Feb 2016 #107

The Super Delegates votes are changeable right up to the convention thesquanderer Feb 2016 #93

But, they won't change their minds. They are Democrats. BigGLiberal Feb 2016 #100

And the other half went to the guy from Vermont! neverforget Feb 2016 #13

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #18

I remember a few short weeks ago -- Bernie was going to be "skunked" Armstead Feb 2016 #19

Brooklynite. we came from "you got no chance" to THIS. Bonobo Feb 2016 #20

Apparently, they don't like her enough, though... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #21

She doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell in NH. His lead there is historic. morningfog Feb 2016 #22

That's what they said in 2008. She won coming from double digits behind BigGLiberal Feb 2016 #102

LOL. Sanders lead in NH is unprecedented, including 2008. morningfog Feb 2016 #103

Something for you to think about - Hillary is NOT inevitable. jillan Feb 2016 #23

Here's something for the Clinton folks to think about as we go to NH Depaysement Feb 2016 #24

I remember another Clinton who lost in New Hampshire... brooklynite Feb 2016 #26

Long time ago Depaysement Feb 2016 #34

And she was leading him by 61 percent a few months before that. John Poet Feb 2016 #67

Absolutely! Hillary should have won by a WHOLE lot more. AgadorSparticus Feb 2016 #105

Not the most, the second most... Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2016 #98

Why? whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #27

Ho w sour are thy grapes! Divernan Feb 2016 #28

From the Brooklyn Museum. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #78

Most polls had Berns ahead. Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #29

In Iowa?! I think you know better than that... reformist2 Feb 2016 #32

I live in nh. You don't know shit about us. bunnies Feb 2016 #30

"Clinton will support TPP After Election" Divernan Feb 2016 #33

This could be beltanefauve Feb 2016 #97

Lol. Arugula Latte Feb 2016 #35

Chuck Todd (of all people) looking at NH Sanders has a 20 to 30 point lead over Hillary Samantha Feb 2016 #36

Hillary choked away a 40-point cushion in a little over 3 months. frylock Feb 2016 #37

Sanders was +8 points ahead 5 days ago.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #38

40 points.. frylock Feb 2016 #39

When you've got the Corporate media bringing up emails FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #40

I think we're watching karma unfold right now.. frylock Feb 2016 #43

Sanders ain't Obama..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #45

But Hillary is Hillary.. frylock Feb 2016 #48

That is an assumption on your part.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #49

Riiiiiiiiiight. Hillary's trained monkey, David Brock, is just playing nice. frylock Feb 2016 #50

There are reporters who have been boosting Sanders for some time now... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #55

Who? HA Goodman? frylock Feb 2016 #56

I remember a story dropped 2 days ago about emails.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #58

Yes, Hillary is her own worst enemy. Just one instance of poor judgment after the next. frylock Feb 2016 #65

She hasn't done anything wrong on that and you know it.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #68

+10 840high Feb 2016 #86

Quite a remarkable comparison you made there. aikoaiko Feb 2016 #82

I'll sleep well tonight... brooklynite Feb 2016 #42

It's all about the mo. frylock Feb 2016 #44

That is a good way to look at the issue--a tight calender. Thanks. riversedge Feb 2016 #62

They don't like her... the are just afraid of losing. basselope Feb 2016 #41

Who is they? FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #46

They are the people who voted with their "head" over their "heart" basselope Feb 2016 #70

Those folks will have to do what they so choose.... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #71

As far as they are concerned, both candidates burn down the house. basselope Feb 2016 #74

Lol, desperation... Arazi Feb 2016 #47

yeah, they like her notadmblnd Feb 2016 #51

Thinking... thinking... thinking... HassleCat Feb 2016 #52

The new goal post moving meme?? Fearless Feb 2016 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #59

Hillary was supposed to win big according to the polls? Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #61

If she hadn't betrayed every left leaning value I might take her seriously.... JPnoodleman Feb 2016 #63

A lot of them bought the "only HRC can win" myth. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #64

I don't live in Iowa, so my impressions may not be valid, SheilaT Feb 2016 #69

How about you stop lecturing us Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #72

actually, more than half . . . that's how she WON DrDan Feb 2016 #73

Actually... less than 1/2 and 6 coin flips. basselope Feb 2016 #75

you really should read and try to understand those coin-flips DrDan Feb 2016 #91

Here, let me illustrate the difference between a tie and a win, okay? riversedge Feb 2016 #95

Both still ties. basselope Feb 2016 #96

About three months before, a lot more people preferred Hillary with a 30 point lead Jarqui Feb 2016 #77

And half of them didn't Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #79

No, we can't. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #80

Iowa Democrats are mostly activists minority of them are liberal big difference Armymedic88 Feb 2016 #81

Iowa is about as unliberal as you can get AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #89

And half of them did not vote for Hillary. djean111 Feb 2016 #90

She is very polarizing Armstead Feb 2016 #101

Ignorance is rampant among the electorate Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #104

new hampshire if bernie can't muster 60% of the primary vote beachbum bob Feb 2016 #106