2016 Postmortem

Gregorian

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153. She talks, but I don't believe her given her record.

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Official Debate Thread 4 [View all] TexasTowelie Feb 2016 OP

In 1964 uh oh Barry Goldwater...where's she going with this... beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #1

Not where I thought she was going Matariki Feb 2016 #3

Me either, Hillary was like WHEW! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #5

No one gives a shit about that. Zynx Feb 2016 #17

Oh lighten up Frances. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #20

Oh lookie, a new room (hanging posters and putting out snacks) tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #2

Fluffs up the pillows, kicks off shoes... Want a microbrew? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #18

Cheers thanks tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #28

she just Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #4

yeah, good luck to her on that point. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #13

I would sooner fall onto a bed of nails LiberalElite Feb 2016 #55

Emails.. drip ....drip.... Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #6

Its such a non issue. metroins Feb 2016 #10

drip drip again... ViseGrip Feb 2016 #11

Pitchers provided by the Koch Brothers. bettyellen Feb 2016 #19

Caucus votes count, any vote counts. She should not have fluffed that off. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #7

Posted on Reddit: "Sanders is fighting dirty, with innuendo, and despicable tactics. A campaign I... Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #8

emails!!!!! eom Karma13612 Feb 2016 #9

I think bottom line is a Democrat is going to win the White House - Obama's support will cement it tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #12

OMG. The distortion. Skwmom Feb 2016 #14

Don't laugh about Benghazi or downplay it. It sounds swarmy. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #15

She had almost nothing to do with it. metroins Feb 2016 #60

Still...you can say that you had nothing to do with it, but the chuckle was a little much. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #69

FBI!!!!!!!!!!! eom Karma13612 Feb 2016 #16

she is LYING restorefreedom Feb 2016 #21

Yep - her body language gave it away. Not good at all for her. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #29

i only heard it but thx for the info nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #43

"Honest to goodness."---yikes Gregorian Feb 2016 #22

uuuuu. she's looking down.... ViseGrip Feb 2016 #23

Sure sign she's lying her ass off. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #25

Going on the right wing conspiracy tip.... Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #24

I've been vetted, I can keep you safe, terra terra terra beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #26

Ouch, now it is Bernie's scandals. Losing control! bettyellen Feb 2016 #27

Didn't seem as much of a big deal as some hoped. nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #42

Yep, someone's disappointed. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #51

Yeah, it's no !!!!Benghazi!!!! bettyellen Feb 2016 #53

Maddow - Pathetic... Skwmom Feb 2016 #30

Bernie handled the email thing perfectly. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #31

Avoiding it made it seem even more "sinister"...somehow hexola Feb 2016 #36

Are we all convinced Rachel has jumped the shark? Now she's onto the valerief Feb 2016 #32

BUTTONGATE!!! Give me a break. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #33

And Hillary refused to comment on it like Bernie refused to comment on the emails! valerief Feb 2016 #41

Good on both of them, they're the adults in the room. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #45

Yep, way better than some of their supporters. joshcryer Feb 2016 #52

You just had to get a shot in, didn't you? Now who's not following their lead? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #54

Speak for yourself. joshcryer Feb 2016 #67

And I did? Who do you think you're talking to? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #75

Well? Where did I "jump in the email bandwagon"? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #82

Well if you didn't I apologize. joshcryer Feb 2016 #96

Or you could take my word for it and apologize now. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #154

I did? joshcryer Feb 2016 #237

Participated in what? You were going to look it up. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #240

And I will. joshcryer Feb 2016 #244

I didn't realize you apologized. It sounded conditional as if you didn't believe me. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #251

Tacky valerief Feb 2016 #57

See posts 6 and 11... joshcryer Feb 2016 #78

I know right?!nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #49

What a corporate tool. Skwmom Feb 2016 #38

I think if they had to bring in "scandals" they had to do it for both. And both handled it well. bettyellen Feb 2016 #39

losing control of campaign....of ffs....time for another donation to bernie! ViseGrip Feb 2016 #34

Good move not to take 30 seconds after his stance on the emails. polichick Feb 2016 #35

He took the high road on the emails and she tried to copy it. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #44

Yes nt slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #46

Right. Besides, we don't listen to that bullshit anyway. That crap may excite Rachel and Todd but valerief Feb 2016 #50

"this scandal is not a problem because I've been involved in plenty of scandals" AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #37

Loved that! bettyellen Feb 2016 #48

Oops MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #58

Hillary handled the Bernie issues perfectly as well. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #40

Bernie's showing her how to dismiss those gotcha moments. Ron Green Feb 2016 #47

Death Penalty, Hillary loses. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #56

We want to make sure they kill the RIGHT criminal. And as humanely as possible. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #61

must meet high standards of evidentiary proof.. restorefreedom Feb 2016 #64

she did give a reasonable answer. get states' procedures fixed and use it for very limited cases. JudyM Feb 2016 #72

Sorry. She supports it. Bernie doesn't. She loses. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #77

yes of course but for her position she gave the best possible answer. will win some voters. JudyM Feb 2016 #83

Agreed. But it is unicorns and rainbows. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #107

She and her husband enthusiastically executed Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #262

death penalty....wait for it...nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #59

Wth...audio keeps blanking out. nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #62

Sorry, the death penalty is wrong. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #63

She hopes someone else decides, so she doesn't have to tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #65

It is NOT an appropriate punishment! It is state sanctioned murder. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #66

another twitter ouchie restorefreedom Feb 2016 #125

I used almost the same hashtag the other day!!! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #131

! nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #142

Right now I wish MoM was in this debate (DP) Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #68

I'm for the death penalty, but only if it's carried out properly? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #70

yes. killing the "right" people is ok. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #80

Yes, the death penalty is racist. Thank you Bernie. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #71

+10000 eom Arazi Feb 2016 #87

Gutsy of Sanders to take a stand against capital punishment. YAY! bettyellen Feb 2016 #73

Yay! On to Flint! valerief Feb 2016 #74

Why can't we have the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers "fix" Flint?nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #90

We can. We aren't. Why not? Good question. Why can't Snyder, who's sitting on a billion dollar valerief Feb 2016 #132

bernie..death penalty restorefreedom Feb 2016 #76

Michigan... If the state is failing... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #79

damn fricking right nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #84

that poison water is different? questionseverything Feb 2016 #85

Sanders wins the death penalty debate hands down. n/t californiabernin Feb 2016 #81

^^^this^^^ ViseGrip Feb 2016 #88

I agree nt metroins Feb 2016 #89

So he's against the death penalty but pro guns? ecstatic Feb 2016 #261

Hillary you are not in office, and can't really do anything. The people of Flint can't wait. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #86

the gov should of been arrested by now questionseverything Feb 2016 #101

Wow.... one issue is as black and white as a school bus full of nuns.... Gram Parsons Feb 2016 #91

Agreed! And welcome to DU!! bettyellen Feb 2016 #98

Thank you, bettyellen! Long time lurker, rare poster, DU is great and has helped shape my worldview! Gram Parsons Feb 2016 #264

Well, it is kind of crappy at the moment. Will breathe a sigh of relief when the primary is over bettyellen Feb 2016 #265

Good to identify... "If this were a suburban white community" MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #92

Yes, excellent point. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #95

Here we go, TPP Question! OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #93

Give it to baby Chuck... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #108

uh oh...trade and tpp nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #94

Trade. Finally! Tell us how that is connected with the situation in Flint. pa28 Feb 2016 #97

But but, she has claimed she helped Karma13612 Feb 2016 #99

not to mention when sheet office, TPP as the centerpiece of her number 1 karynnj Feb 2016 #263

Gold standard? Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #100

HELLO!!!1 AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #112

Hillary, will you be waffle? ViseGrip Feb 2016 #102

Local news says Hillary will be in Lansing Sunday. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #103

I heard her mention tonight. nt valerief Feb 2016 #120

Argh! Did I miss that? I didn't hear her say it. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #130

Actually, I think she said she'd be in Flint Sunday. I guess you'll have to valerief Feb 2016 #143

No, I bet I missed it. I edited my post. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #149

yep, has to postpone a Bain Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #135

Superbowl Sunday. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #138

Our debates are so much better and more substantive than the Republican variety show types. californiabernin Feb 2016 #104

the debates are a whole lot better than the threads about them, LOL. bettyellen Feb 2016 #111

That's for sure. n/t californiabernin Feb 2016 #121

No trade deals for you Bernie? bettyellen Feb 2016 #105

Ahem: "OF COURSE I BELIEVE IN TRADE!" I think is what he said. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #122

Wrong noun, question was about deals. bettyellen Feb 2016 #129

Keep listening... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #126

I'll give HRC one thing, she can sling the BS without saying anything. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #106

Not the 95% of consumers line! OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #109

i hoped tpp would be kind of trade agreement i was hoping for restorefreedom Feb 2016 #110

They must ask about fracking.... ViseGrip Feb 2016 #113

Bernie's context is always The People, and you just can't beat that. Gregorian Feb 2016 #114

Exactly! OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #124

Of course I believe in trade! Go Bernie!!! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #115

That was a great answer. He knows his stuff on trade. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #123

again, Bernie has the better judgment once again ViseGrip Feb 2016 #116

He made that very clear. avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #156

"Of, By and For Corporate America..." - trade agreements tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #117

"I understand what the purpose of NAFTA CAFTA and TPP is" OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #118

+1 I'm so glad Bernie ran for president so we can have a voice on this issue for once. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #128

Couldn't agree more! OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #137

Bernie nailed that trade response EndElectoral Feb 2016 #119

So much better than Hillary's lackluster "safety net" OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #133

His response was FABULOUS. He needs, needs, to be our president! RiverLover Feb 2016 #134

Bernie sanders stance on trade will win states like Ohio... Armymedic88 Feb 2016 #127

It was disappointing that he endorsed Hillary. SamKnause Feb 2016 #150

I have a personal history with Sen. Brown and when he endorsed her I was in complete shock Armymedic88 Feb 2016 #160

This is an excellent debate! one_voice Feb 2016 #136

Yeah, I wish I could make one person out of them both! bettyellen Feb 2016 #141

Ya know, The moderators tonight have put all the provious ones to shame! napi21 Feb 2016 #139

+1 JimDandy Feb 2016 #148

lol...retro chafee tweet restorefreedom Feb 2016 #140

LOLOLOL! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #146

here's another restorefreedom Feb 2016 #161

! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #166

Bwahahahaha! Golden! nt valerief Feb 2016 #187

I would say UglyGreed Feb 2016 #144

What do you do first? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #145

She flubbed that. Makes no sense. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #155

Can't argue with that. Because I don't know what it means. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #158

Clinton's eyes are turning brown. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #147

she's overpromising... but claims other people are the ones doing it tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #152

Why the FUCK hasn't anybody asked her about Soc Security privatization? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #151

She talks, but I don't believe her given her record. Gregorian Feb 2016 #153

I haven't seen big and bold from Hillary. avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #162

Okay the bold one here is Bernie avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #168

Fumble... hexola Feb 2016 #157

Bernie has given the issues a LOT of thought. He knows what's most important. senz Feb 2016 #159

WHEN MILLIONS OF PEOPLE DEAL WITH CONGRESS....I'm ready MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #163

+1. nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #178

Bernie is great. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #164

Damn, Bernie calls Mcconnell. He means business. Gregorian Feb 2016 #165

Sanders doesn't understand Mitch wont care if a trillion people were outside his door... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #167

Kissinger?? No she di'int!!! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #169

She's proud the warmonger is her buddy. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #177

He's a war criminal! Who does she think is in the audience? Neocons? beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #184

Why does Clinton use Kissinger as job reference? EndElectoral Feb 2016 #170

Isn't he a war criminal? RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #180

Sanders was perfect on "What would you do first?" question. californiabernin Feb 2016 #171

Yep - Hillary sounded like Trump... hexola Feb 2016 #183

Yep! RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #185

I want to "streamline" ... I want a "top to bottom review"... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #172

She hasn't thought it through. It shows. senz Feb 2016 #173

Kissinger as a reference? Oops. Gregorian Feb 2016 #174

Dropping Kissinger's name; save that for the general BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #175

She put on the pursed lips fake smile Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #176

Kissinger....WTF????? Punkingal Feb 2016 #179

oh no she didnt! restorefreedom Feb 2016 #181

Duplicative??? Hillary just made up a word. ffs ViseGrip Feb 2016 #182

Omg Hillary is quoting Henry Kissinger. avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #186

what a gaffe uhnope Feb 2016 #195

she just doesn't get it does she? questionseverything Feb 2016 #196

You'd almost think she's out of touch with Democrats. senz Feb 2016 #213

She proved by that statement once again avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #239

Flattered because Kissinger complimented her????? SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #188

She just proved she is. avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #204

No I won't add or get rid of Federal agencies... JimDandy Feb 2016 #189

She's coming back around to going negative towards Sanders... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #190

she is coming unhinged restorefreedom Feb 2016 #191

at least twice she looked a bit unhinged and out of control...raising her voice and angry uhnope Feb 2016 #228

its very interesting when you can only hear it restorefreedom Feb 2016 #252

Toad asks a dumb ass question. nc4bo Feb 2016 #192

she's yelling again ViseGrip Feb 2016 #193

What a fucking asshole Chuck Todd's questions are, indeed... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #194

He gives toads a bad name. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #200

Is it bad that I want someone to punch him in the mouth!? His questions are half ass and leading... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #210

I like that they are trying to stay classy! TAKE A LESSON PEOPLE! bettyellen Feb 2016 #197

Amen. SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #219

Bernie is CAPABLE of respecting other people. senz Feb 2016 #198

Sanders is right!!! We have two kick ass candidates uponit7771 Feb 2016 #199

Woah... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #205

Chelsea can see him as a president RiverLover Feb 2016 #201

Bernie's statement RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #202

the laugh...the frozen smile...eyes bugging out uhnope Feb 2016 #203

+1, Chuck Todd looks stupid uponit7771 Feb 2016 #215

Damnit what did Bernie say that got the loud applause? Dem2 Feb 2016 #206

he said they would both be better than the repubs nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #223

Damn right! Dem2 Feb 2016 #232

:) nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #248

No matter what goes on in the dem primary, they are 100 times better than the republicans! ViseGrip Feb 2016 #226

Thanks! Dem2 Feb 2016 #234

These two actually get along and that's a good thing BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #207

D*mn right 100's better then ANY repubs. a kennedy Feb 2016 #208

First she wanted us to vote with our heads not our hearts. Now she changes it Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #209

What if supporters in both camps showed as much respect for each other as they do for each other. californiabernin Feb 2016 #211

Then they would have to tear each other down more. Supporters serve a good purpose... Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #216

Not really, some just like being assholes on the net. bettyellen Feb 2016 #221

Well that I agree with, but I'm talking about large scale. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #229

I don't see the big picture where it is wise to repeat RW memes and attack over minor bullshit. bettyellen Feb 2016 #260

LOL, blocked from both of their "supporter" sites. joshcryer Feb 2016 #241

HOME RUN! hexola Feb 2016 #212

Grand Slam, touchdown and goal! all in one! n/t RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #217

This is a relief- Karma13612 Feb 2016 #214

Please don't talk about your youth, Hillary. OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #218

Bernie...Bringing it home... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #220

Once again, Bernie hits it out of the park, and into the parking lot. RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #222

Our government belongs to all of us! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #224

Both had good closing statements! OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #225

Well, Bernie's could have been stronger. n/t JimDandy Feb 2016 #236

Well if you are going to nitpick, she could have left out the part where she talked about her youth OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #247

I want Bernie to not just to do well, but to bowl over everyone. JimDandy Feb 2016 #254

OK, I hear ya. OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #255

Huh R0ckyRac00n Feb 2016 #257

Maybe I just want too much. n/t JimDandy Feb 2016 #258

Standing ovation for a fabulous debate! jillan Feb 2016 #227

Jane is so gracious. senz Feb 2016 #230

I noticed that too n/t Bjornsdotter Feb 2016 #259

Rachel to NH voters: Can't wait to see how you vote. Don't screw up. JimDandy Feb 2016 #231

i know, what was that?! JudyM Feb 2016 #235

I'm hoping she was speaking to the Republicans JimDandy Feb 2016 #242

I thought that comment was pretty strange tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #238

Rachel's been weird lately. nc4bo Feb 2016 #243

Hopefully was a reference to the Republican clown car. JimDandy Feb 2016 #245

How so? I don't have cable, so it's catch as catch can to see JimDandy Feb 2016 #250

She's been on a Trump binge....I stopped watching. nc4bo Feb 2016 #256

Thought that was a strange comment. nt slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #253

Best debate of the season. Easily. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #233

Yep RiverLover Feb 2016 #249

Bernie speaks for me but tonight I am proud of them both. jillan Feb 2016 #246