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grantcart

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Sat Feb 11, 2012, 11:28 PM Feb 2012

Thomas Friedman to Republicans: This time around you should just take a pass, try in 4 years. [View all]

Last edited Sun Feb 12, 2012, 02:13 AM - Edit history (1)

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/02/11/should_republicans_just_give_up.html

Friedman likens the Republicans to somebody playing scrabble where all the letters you have left are unplayable duds. Sometimes its better passing than trying to make out some convoluted word out of a bunch of wacky letters. Pretty funny and accurate analogy. Right now the key Republicans are searching through their dictionaries trying to figure out some possible word that you can make up out of a bunch of unplayable letters.



WATCHING the Republican Party struggling to agree on a presidential candidate, one wonders whether the G.O.P. shouldn’t just sit this election out — just give 2012 a pass.





Josh Haner/The New York Times

Thomas L. Friedman


You know how in Scrabble sometimes you look at your seven letters and you’ve got only vowels that spell nothing? What do you do? You go back to the pile. You throw your letters back and hope to pick up better ones to work with. That’s what Republican primary voters seem to be doing. They just keep going back to the pile but still coming up with only vowels that spell nothing.

There’s a reason for that: Their pile is out of date. The party has let itself become the captive of conflicting ideological bases: anti-abortion advocates, anti-immigration activists, social conservatives worried about the sanctity of marriage, libertarians who want to shrink government, and anti-tax advocates who want to drown government in a bathtub.

Sorry, but you can’t address the great challenges America faces today with that incoherent mix of hardened positions. I’ve argued that maybe we need a third party to break open our political system. But that’s a long shot. What we definitely and urgently need is a second party — a coherent Republican opposition that is offering constructive conservative proposals on the key issues and is ready for strategic compromises to advance its interests and those of the country.

Without that, the best of the Democrats — who have been willing to compromise — have no partners and the worst have a free pass for their own magical thinking. Since such a transformed Republican Party is highly unlikely, maybe the best thing would be for it to get crushed in this election and forced into a fundamental rethink — something the Democrats had to go through when they lost three in a row between 1980 and 1988. We need a “Different Kind of Republican” the way Bill Clinton gave us a “Different Kind of Democrat

more at the link


As a fairly 'moderate' Democrat I am all for trying the 'crushing' them into sawdust option and see what comes out of it. Would be a lot better than the obstructionist idiots we have now.

Worth a try.
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The far right needs to be crushed. Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #1
I love that they're spending scads of money which will ultimately be for naught. nt gateley Feb 2012 #2
What makes him think that in four years Loki Feb 2012 #3
They are two years from like a 46 seat swing their way in the House Cosmocat Feb 2012 #15
How can they "rethink" what they don't think about in the first place. It seems NC_Nurse Feb 2012 #4
As a flaming liberal/progressive, I want the rePIGS crushed, powdered ... mazzarro Feb 2012 #5
I vote crush them... Kalidurga Feb 2012 #6
You are being misdirected. The war isnt with the GOP, it's with the oligarchs. And they have a good rhett o rick Feb 2012 #7
+1! snot Feb 2012 #11
Yep. We have become a party of reagan democrats. Jakes Progress Feb 2012 #19
The oligarchs arent so stupid that they didnt figure out they could buy rhett o rick Feb 2012 #20
I think they saw the crazies in their republican party Jakes Progress Feb 2012 #21
The conservatives created their monster which included the wacko's. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #22
Democrats- "free pass for their own magical thinking" Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #8
GC - can you add the link? Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #9
here is the link to political wire sorry grantcart Feb 2012 #10
Thanks! Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Occupy_2012 Feb 2012 #12
with a Libertarian focus. DCBob Feb 2012 #14
Ron Paul is a Republican not an 'independent' Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #16
I disagree. The Democratic Party is picking up ex-R'cons and independents as rhett o rick Feb 2012 #18
Mind if I call bullshit? Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #24
No, please do. great white snark Feb 2012 #25
I mean, shouldn't there be some minimum standard of accountability, even at DU? Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #26
I dont have proof. But it makes sense to me. If you have proof otherwise, I will be rhett o rick Feb 2012 #27
Doesn't really matter what I "think", because I can only speak for me. You, on the other hand, made Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #29
I did make sweeping claims that I do not have data to back up. But apparently you also rhett o rick Feb 2012 #30
"Tell us some facts on your own." Why? You haven't. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #31
I stated my opinion. If you dont agree, please give us the benefit of your insight. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #33
Who can counter bullshit? I mean you started from a false "made up" premise, and expect.... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #34
At least you stated that you do not support OWS. Thanks for being honest. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #35
Same to you? And good luck hanging with Ron Paul and his racist supporters. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #36
And good luck hanging out with the other OWS haters like Hannity and O'Reilly. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #37
Try Harder! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #38
Indifference? or lack of commitment. But if you are indifferent, why do you respond in threads rhett o rick Feb 2012 #39
"But if you are indifferent, why do you respond in threads discussing OWS?" Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #41
I enjoy a good natured discussion. Cant handle the mocking emoticons. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #42
Then I guess there's nothing more to say? Good to know that "emoticons" are your tipping point.... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #43
Are you being snarky because you are bored? Never mind, i dont care. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #44
Nope. You introduced the snark. I just followed your lead. But I'll say this, you couldn't have.. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #45
I would rather have them find their best and be demolished. LiberalFighter Feb 2012 #17
He's got an interesting point of view davidpdx Feb 2012 #23
I love this, thanks for posting. I would've missed it. n/t K Gardner Feb 2012 #28
As completely and totally crazy as this sounds... Craigtee3030 Feb 2012 #32
What happened Tom? Downtown Hound Feb 2012 #40
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