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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: A Hillary primary win will likely KILL DU off. [View all]"Clinton is a sure loser.she is already losing in polls.her support will never go up."
^^^ Wrong. Clinton is an incredibly strong GE candidate as her positions are reasonable and can appeal to a winning portion of the electorate. That's not true of Sanders's positions. They are too extreme.
The Republicans are well aware of these two facts. This is why their pundits push Sanders.
"you and fellow clinton supports have bashed most of DU membership is majority support bernie here"
^^^ Not going to comment further to this bait for an e-fight.
"Clinton is war mongor who is loves kissinger.clinton better on foregin policy my ass."
^^^ This appears to be a poorly-informed comment.
However Sanders's out-of-the-blue criticism of Kissinger on stage with Clinton was an appeal to the uninformed...
Kissinger is a very controversial figure and is criticized for many good reasons. But of course Sanders doesn't like Kissinger...
Kissinger was a realist, pragmatist, and he fought the expansion of the Soviet Union where Sanders spent one of his honeymoons.
Also:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/12/politics/democratic-debate-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-kissinger/
"His writings and advice on geopolitics remain required reading in the foreign policy community in the United States and overseas."
...Sanders on the other hand has previously introduced a bill to shut off our nuclear program, doesn't know who runs North Korea, and thinks Saudi Arabia and Iran are going to magically become allies to defeat ISIS when they are mortal enemies.
Not good.
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Right -- I can even discuss activism to move the party left of the "Party Platform", yes?
JonLeibowitz
Feb 2016
#234
When Bernie wins the primary then the GE, who cares? I would rather spend my time doing shit I
litlbilly
Feb 2016
#2
You are absolutely right. DU was here before they came, and will be here after
still_one
Feb 2016
#87
Joe Lieberman did it against Ned Lamont and the Dem Party backed the non-Democrat, Joe.
GoneFishin
Feb 2016
#103
You are right. I was confusing the endorsements for Lieberman prior to the primary.
GoneFishin
Feb 2016
#188
I've stated thousands of times that I will support the corporatist if she's the nominee. It will be
JRLeft
Feb 2016
#45
My personal opinion is that Bernie and Elizabeth will be concentrating their efforts on getting
Cal33
Feb 2016
#231
Yeah, that is going to be my plan as well sadly. If I were on the otherside, I'd accuse me of...
Joe the Revelator
Feb 2016
#14
no, everyone would come back for Warren 2020 to stop the Rubio-Kasich administration
Vote2016
Feb 2016
#8
Put up some Goldman Sachs ads & fluff the content a bit this place will look good as new...
think
Feb 2016
#111
But the movement will no longer be welcome here. It inherently violates the TOS.
jeff47
Feb 2016
#180
The name of this site is Democratic Underground so if someone cannot support the Democratic...
kerry-is-my-prez
Feb 2016
#41
Yep. We are Dems ala FDR and what we see are repubs taking over the party as "New Democrats"
RiverLover
Feb 2016
#135
Right now 90 percent of the posts are anti-Clinton. I think more Clinton people will come back and
kerry-is-my-prez
Feb 2016
#47
You're doubting that 90% of DU ever voted Democratic? I call big time bullshit.
merrily
Feb 2016
#92
I not only read it, I understood it. It and maybe a thousand posts like it from the same
merrily
Feb 2016
#248
The Hillary people stuck around in 2008 when Obama won the nomination
question everything
Feb 2016
#40
I'll campaign for Hillary if she wins, and I'm here unless they purge me.
DemocraticWing
Feb 2016
#44
Yeah, it couldn't possibly be the fault of the Democratic party or the candidate(s)
Fumesucker
Feb 2016
#53
The problem I see is if Sanders urges his followers to switch to Hillary a lot will turn off
Fumesucker
Feb 2016
#68
I'll have to see what logic he uses, how he presents the choice and what else is going on
Fumesucker
Feb 2016
#129
If by "policy" you mean the agonized squeal of metal on metal that comes from a twisting weathervane
VulgarPoet
Feb 2016
#128
I think a high percentage of DUers aren't paying much attention to the primaries
Kaleva
Feb 2016
#93
The months between the convention and the general election could be unpleasant
tularetom
Feb 2016
#109
People on DU feel "compelled to vote against her for Trump or Cruz"?? wow... if that is the case
boston bean
Feb 2016
#115
In years past I'd agree. But not this year and not with that candidate (Clinton).
Skwmom
Feb 2016
#177
I'm sure my anger at whoever the Republicans nominate will motivate me enough to stick around. nt
el_bryanto
Feb 2016
#126
I'm out of anger at the Republican party. It's been replaced by a sort of scorched earth nihilism.
VulgarPoet
Feb 2016
#132
It turns out that there are quite a few national and local seats up for grabs in November.
Orsino
Feb 2016
#144
A Sanders primary win will likely KILL the Democratic party off in the GE.
Yog-Sothoth
Feb 2016
#152
Sanders has plenty of highly regarded economists supporting his trade and economic
stillwaiting
Feb 2016
#174
Come on, don't pout and run off. Stick around and criticize Clinton like many here bashed Obama.
Hoyt
Feb 2016
#182
Considering that they're not used to supporting anyone the regress back to bashing will be easy (NT)
great white snark
Feb 2016
#194
Nah. Remember the PUMAs? DU survived that fucking bullshit, it can survive anything.
Iggo
Feb 2016
#186
Nah, it will hopefully return DU to where it was 10 years ago, a refreshing refuge from...
George II
Feb 2016
#193
I'd stick around just to read the reactions to the attacks that will be forthcoming from the right.
Vinca
Feb 2016
#256