2016 Postmortem

wendylaroux

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80. it is the haves against the have nots.

Reply to cali (Original post)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:21 PM

Feb 2016

either you have a conscience or you have not.

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The Democratic Party isn't some sacred totem. [View all] cali Feb 2016 OP

Interesting how Debbie Wasserman-Schultz can get away with supporting her GOP buddies - djean111 Feb 2016 #1

Far as I'm concerned, they can have that label after the primary VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #2

A-men to both farleftlib Feb 2016 #4

Yes please. wendylaroux Feb 2016 #77

Even as head of the Party, Obama would not support the Democratic candidate and said nice things merrily Feb 2016 #26

As a floridian watching them push crist SwampG8r Feb 2016 #37

It got us, Senator Rubio, too, maybe even President Rubio someday. merrily Feb 2016 #48

I was told by one of the loyalty oathers SwampG8r Feb 2016 #65

This: ...the "D" brand ain't what it used to be. CrispyQ Feb 2016 #69

The party should be the people not the other way around libtodeath Feb 2016 #3

Yeah, Sanders* has made a name for himself all livetohike Feb 2016 #5

Just like Hillary's made a reputation for not being a warmonger for herself for decades. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #6

He made a name for himself with progressives all across the country cali Feb 2016 #7

His name is not associated with dishonest either. libtodeath Feb 2016 #9

god, this annoys me. he's a better dem than her, dws and her roguevalley Feb 2016 #16

Oh my heavens! you should not speak of a ladies petticoat! wendylaroux Feb 2016 #78

Bwahahaha! I will give you my pearls when I'm done with them. My g. aunts would exclaim, "I will be roguevalley Feb 2016 #84

Because this label is BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #29

Only her supporters think she is honest is not a great campaign theme. libtodeath Feb 2016 #50

Her supporters will prove BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #55

Of income ? TheFarS1de Feb 2016 #61

It's a widespread notion, regardless of source: Maedhros Feb 2016 #71

He's sure making one now. A good one, too. merrily Feb 2016 #27

He was concerning himself with doing the right thing, Scalded Nun Feb 2016 #44

Well, this isn't progressiveunderground.com or liberalunderground.com Tarc Feb 2016 #8

That is just sad. libtodeath Feb 2016 #10

Yeah... since when was blind fealty to labels a good thing? [nt] Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #12

And it is not underground anymore either. zeemike Feb 2016 #19

It never was. From everything I've read, it began as the Democratic answer to Bush's election. merrily Feb 2016 #32

Perhaps not but it was the underground part that attracted people. zeemike Feb 2016 #83

Too bad. Liberal and Progressive used to be... dchill Feb 2016 #20

So one should never speak bad of their leaders? pinebox Feb 2016 #21

Our leaders, the public figures get to speak badly about us, the people who put them in office who merrily Feb 2016 #43

This is AMERICA. I can vote for weknowvino2 Feb 2016 #25

Ah, well then... davidthegnome Feb 2016 #33

Wait and see what happens if Clinton wins the nom. JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #39

This reads like a promotional 2banon Feb 2016 #42

Well, look at you, making a snotty post about how snotty other DUers are. merrily Feb 2016 #46

"I know you are, but what am I"? JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #72

Ah, I see. You get to define snottiness as someone saying things you don't like about you. merrily Feb 2016 #75

Bull!... freebrew Feb 2016 #57

I'm actually counting on that... JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #74

Sanders has already been calling for unity Z_California Feb 2016 #76

^^this!^^ freebrew Feb 2016 #88

Current polling says exactly the opposite n/t eridani Feb 2016 #109

yes,what the needy and sick need is politeness. wendylaroux Feb 2016 #86

You give hope that all the dinosaurs aren't extinct yet. I am old enough to have voted for Nader, jtuck004 Feb 2016 #110

Except when they are not. DU favored recent Republican Charlie Crist over Democrat Kendrick Meek Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #66

And this is why I laugh at the constant loyalty oaths to the Democratic Party here enigmatic Feb 2016 #85

Except when they aren't. frylock Feb 2016 #93

Advertisers must love you Lorien Feb 2016 #101

" This isn't progressiveunderground.com or liberalunderground.com" Lorien Feb 2016 #103

Of course they belong Tarc Feb 2016 #106

And what will happen if Hillary loses, pray tell? Hydra Feb 2016 #107

Unless you are DWS, in which case you support your Repuke buddies in FL n/t eridani Feb 2016 #108

she is treating as a brand tk2kewl Feb 2016 #11

You aren't loyal to brands? JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #35

Are you actually comparing cola to Hillary? cali Feb 2016 #38

I believe Kewl was comparing the party to cola JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #51

Oh please. Anecdotal stories from an anonymous poster cali Feb 2016 #53

in '92, Perot got 18% n/t. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #112

I'm a big brand loyalist, but only when I'm happy with the product. frylock Feb 2016 #95

Being admonished for not siding with every single Establishment Democrat democrank Feb 2016 #13

Absolute power UglyGreed Feb 2016 #14

"The Party" is a vehicle. Nothing more. Buns_of_Fire Feb 2016 #15

+1 Dems to Win Feb 2016 #23

You would have liked Max Baucus's BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #31

I'm sure you're right. Ain't that way it always goes? Buns_of_Fire Feb 2016 #49

It's not just a mindset BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #54

The glass is half full PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #96

K&R avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #17

I agree...don't tell me, show me. Moostache Feb 2016 #18

It rather is to me. JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #22

I don't vote for party, I vote for candidates. bigwillq Feb 2016 #24

Thank you. Difference between Paul Wellstone and Jim Cooper is huge. Both had D's beside their name EndElectoral Feb 2016 #30

In a lot of ways this reminds me of so-called "Christians" EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #28

GMTA GreenPartyVoter Feb 2016 #97

Yep. cyberswede Feb 2016 #34

heck, this faction said "STFU about the party, just support it 100%" MisterP Feb 2016 #60

I judge by what you do, not what you call yourself pengu Feb 2016 #36

yup! wendylaroux Feb 2016 #79

Principles should ALWAYS be ABOVE Party; otherwise, we have fascism amborin Feb 2016 #40

Really curious here, can someone answer... freebrew Feb 2016 #41

hmm. usually it's on your voter registration, but that's not the same as actually becoming an ACTIVE nashville_brook Feb 2016 #47

Except here in Florida. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #67

it's the backstabbing and running off new talent, that's the real loyalty oath here in FL nashville_brook Feb 2016 #68

Same here. I'm 65 .. lifelong "D" generations of the same 2banon Feb 2016 #52

+1 million geardaddy Feb 2016 #62

RESULTS OF JURY SERVICE --> 1-6 LEAVE IT nashville_brook Feb 2016 #45

As I recall, when I registered as Democrat in 1965, no oath of allegiance was required. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #56

heck, just look at Robert McCulloch MisterP Feb 2016 #58

all I know is I've heard way more liberals say they won't vote for Hillary than vice versa Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #59

one learns in Civics Class that Lincoln was a Liberal PatrynXX Feb 2016 #63

Democrat schmemocrat. snort Feb 2016 #64

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #70

The DNC has abandoned many recent Democratic candidates jopacaco Feb 2016 #73

In 2014, we supported a D candidate for Governor and ended up with LePage... brooklynite Feb 2016 #81

There was no other strategy that would have worked better. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #113

it is the haves against the have nots. wendylaroux Feb 2016 #80

I am a proud member of the Democratic Party and I believe in the ideas represented by the party Gothmog Feb 2016 #82

Do you think corruption within the democratic party is a real and serious problem? cali Feb 2016 #89

No Gothmog Feb 2016 #90

A great many people voting in this election don't identify with either party. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #87

The Democratic Party was a sacred totem when I was a child in my parent's home. bvar22 Feb 2016 #91

It seems like some people's entire identities are wrapped up into belonging to the party. frylock Feb 2016 #92

It's just a sports team to them. Lorien Feb 2016 #99

Penn State frylock Feb 2016 #100

Perfect example! Lorien Feb 2016 #104

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!! Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #94

What Cali said! nt californiabernin Feb 2016 #98

The Democratic Party has definitely seen better days than now. ladjf Feb 2016 #102

Ok TeddyR Feb 2016 #105

Democrats were turning over black kids school buses, yelling racist taunts at the, and jtuck004 Feb 2016 #111