2016 Postmortem

bvar22

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91. The Democratic Party was a sacred totem when I was a child in my parent's home.

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 04:40 PM

Feb 2016

In the Kitchen/dining/family room/rec room, there were originally two portraits on the wall.
The first was that ubiquitous painting of Jesus,
and immediately to Jesus's right was the official portrait of FDR.
It doesn't get more sacred than that.
Those two were joined by the official photo-portrait JFK after the assassination.

That said, what passes for the Democratic Party today bears no resemblance to the Democratic Party of FDR, JFK, or LBJ. If any of those icons of the Working Class were ever resurrected, they wouldn't recognize what the Party has devolved into. They would believe that the Fascists have taken over....
and maybe they would be right.

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The Democratic Party isn't some sacred totem. [View all] cali Feb 2016 OP

Interesting how Debbie Wasserman-Schultz can get away with supporting her GOP buddies - djean111 Feb 2016 #1

Far as I'm concerned, they can have that label after the primary VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #2

A-men to both farleftlib Feb 2016 #4

Yes please. wendylaroux Feb 2016 #77

Even as head of the Party, Obama would not support the Democratic candidate and said nice things merrily Feb 2016 #26

As a floridian watching them push crist SwampG8r Feb 2016 #37

It got us, Senator Rubio, too, maybe even President Rubio someday. merrily Feb 2016 #48

I was told by one of the loyalty oathers SwampG8r Feb 2016 #65

This: ...the "D" brand ain't what it used to be. CrispyQ Feb 2016 #69

The party should be the people not the other way around libtodeath Feb 2016 #3

Yeah, Sanders* has made a name for himself all livetohike Feb 2016 #5

Just like Hillary's made a reputation for not being a warmonger for herself for decades. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #6

He made a name for himself with progressives all across the country cali Feb 2016 #7

His name is not associated with dishonest either. libtodeath Feb 2016 #9

god, this annoys me. he's a better dem than her, dws and her roguevalley Feb 2016 #16

Oh my heavens! you should not speak of a ladies petticoat! wendylaroux Feb 2016 #78

Bwahahaha! I will give you my pearls when I'm done with them. My g. aunts would exclaim, "I will be roguevalley Feb 2016 #84

Because this label is BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #29

Only her supporters think she is honest is not a great campaign theme. libtodeath Feb 2016 #50

Her supporters will prove BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #55

Of income ? TheFarS1de Feb 2016 #61

It's a widespread notion, regardless of source: Maedhros Feb 2016 #71

He's sure making one now. A good one, too. merrily Feb 2016 #27

He was concerning himself with doing the right thing, Scalded Nun Feb 2016 #44

Well, this isn't progressiveunderground.com or liberalunderground.com Tarc Feb 2016 #8

That is just sad. libtodeath Feb 2016 #10

Yeah... since when was blind fealty to labels a good thing? [nt] Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #12

And it is not underground anymore either. zeemike Feb 2016 #19

It never was. From everything I've read, it began as the Democratic answer to Bush's election. merrily Feb 2016 #32

Perhaps not but it was the underground part that attracted people. zeemike Feb 2016 #83

Too bad. Liberal and Progressive used to be... dchill Feb 2016 #20

So one should never speak bad of their leaders? pinebox Feb 2016 #21

Our leaders, the public figures get to speak badly about us, the people who put them in office who merrily Feb 2016 #43

This is AMERICA. I can vote for weknowvino2 Feb 2016 #25

Ah, well then... davidthegnome Feb 2016 #33

Wait and see what happens if Clinton wins the nom. JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #39

This reads like a promotional 2banon Feb 2016 #42

Well, look at you, making a snotty post about how snotty other DUers are. merrily Feb 2016 #46

"I know you are, but what am I"? JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #72

Ah, I see. You get to define snottiness as someone saying things you don't like about you. merrily Feb 2016 #75

Bull!... freebrew Feb 2016 #57

I'm actually counting on that... JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #74

Sanders has already been calling for unity Z_California Feb 2016 #76

^^this!^^ freebrew Feb 2016 #88

Current polling says exactly the opposite n/t eridani Feb 2016 #109

yes,what the needy and sick need is politeness. wendylaroux Feb 2016 #86

You give hope that all the dinosaurs aren't extinct yet. I am old enough to have voted for Nader, jtuck004 Feb 2016 #110

Except when they are not. DU favored recent Republican Charlie Crist over Democrat Kendrick Meek Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #66

And this is why I laugh at the constant loyalty oaths to the Democratic Party here enigmatic Feb 2016 #85

Except when they aren't. frylock Feb 2016 #93

Advertisers must love you Lorien Feb 2016 #101

" This isn't progressiveunderground.com or liberalunderground.com" Lorien Feb 2016 #103

Of course they belong Tarc Feb 2016 #106

And what will happen if Hillary loses, pray tell? Hydra Feb 2016 #107

Unless you are DWS, in which case you support your Repuke buddies in FL n/t eridani Feb 2016 #108

she is treating as a brand tk2kewl Feb 2016 #11

You aren't loyal to brands? JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #35

Are you actually comparing cola to Hillary? cali Feb 2016 #38

I believe Kewl was comparing the party to cola JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #51

Oh please. Anecdotal stories from an anonymous poster cali Feb 2016 #53

in '92, Perot got 18% n/t. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #112

I'm a big brand loyalist, but only when I'm happy with the product. frylock Feb 2016 #95

Being admonished for not siding with every single Establishment Democrat democrank Feb 2016 #13

Absolute power UglyGreed Feb 2016 #14

"The Party" is a vehicle. Nothing more. Buns_of_Fire Feb 2016 #15

+1 Dems to Win Feb 2016 #23

You would have liked Max Baucus's BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #31

I'm sure you're right. Ain't that way it always goes? Buns_of_Fire Feb 2016 #49

It's not just a mindset BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #54

The glass is half full PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #96

K&R avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #17

I agree...don't tell me, show me. Moostache Feb 2016 #18

It rather is to me. JohnnyRingo Feb 2016 #22

I don't vote for party, I vote for candidates. bigwillq Feb 2016 #24

Thank you. Difference between Paul Wellstone and Jim Cooper is huge. Both had D's beside their name EndElectoral Feb 2016 #30

In a lot of ways this reminds me of so-called "Christians" EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #28

GMTA GreenPartyVoter Feb 2016 #97

Yep. cyberswede Feb 2016 #34

heck, this faction said "STFU about the party, just support it 100%" MisterP Feb 2016 #60

I judge by what you do, not what you call yourself pengu Feb 2016 #36

yup! wendylaroux Feb 2016 #79

Principles should ALWAYS be ABOVE Party; otherwise, we have fascism amborin Feb 2016 #40

Really curious here, can someone answer... freebrew Feb 2016 #41

hmm. usually it's on your voter registration, but that's not the same as actually becoming an ACTIVE nashville_brook Feb 2016 #47

Except here in Florida. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #67

it's the backstabbing and running off new talent, that's the real loyalty oath here in FL nashville_brook Feb 2016 #68

Same here. I'm 65 .. lifelong "D" generations of the same 2banon Feb 2016 #52

+1 million geardaddy Feb 2016 #62

RESULTS OF JURY SERVICE --> 1-6 LEAVE IT nashville_brook Feb 2016 #45

As I recall, when I registered as Democrat in 1965, no oath of allegiance was required. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #56

heck, just look at Robert McCulloch MisterP Feb 2016 #58

all I know is I've heard way more liberals say they won't vote for Hillary than vice versa Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #59

one learns in Civics Class that Lincoln was a Liberal PatrynXX Feb 2016 #63

Democrat schmemocrat. snort Feb 2016 #64

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #70

The DNC has abandoned many recent Democratic candidates jopacaco Feb 2016 #73

In 2014, we supported a D candidate for Governor and ended up with LePage... brooklynite Feb 2016 #81

There was no other strategy that would have worked better. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #113

it is the haves against the have nots. wendylaroux Feb 2016 #80

I am a proud member of the Democratic Party and I believe in the ideas represented by the party Gothmog Feb 2016 #82

Do you think corruption within the democratic party is a real and serious problem? cali Feb 2016 #89

No Gothmog Feb 2016 #90

A great many people voting in this election don't identify with either party. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #87

The Democratic Party was a sacred totem when I was a child in my parent's home. bvar22 Feb 2016 #91

It seems like some people's entire identities are wrapped up into belonging to the party. frylock Feb 2016 #92

It's just a sports team to them. Lorien Feb 2016 #99

Penn State frylock Feb 2016 #100

Perfect example! Lorien Feb 2016 #104

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!! Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #94

What Cali said! nt californiabernin Feb 2016 #98

The Democratic Party has definitely seen better days than now. ladjf Feb 2016 #102

Ok TeddyR Feb 2016 #105

Democrats were turning over black kids school buses, yelling racist taunts at the, and jtuck004 Feb 2016 #111